tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-66512743775503697422024-03-13T01:11:43.037-07:00POLLUTED BRAINA mix of punk, hardcore, post punk, metal, and whatever else that is good. Photos, interviews, flyers, old ads, and more.Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-87986240142745476672010-10-04T21:52:00.000-07:002010-10-04T21:52:15.507-07:00FLAMING LIPS flyers from Oklahoma - all 80s stuffLast week I finally got around to watching the Flaming Lips documentary, "Fearless Freaks". For whatever reason, there's not much about the early years. But whatever. Maybe someone will make tell that story later? Ever since watching the movie I've been listening to their albums quite a bit and thinking about their shows from 1985 to around 1989, which I think was the last time I had seen them. My favorite show from them was around 1988, or so. They had the smoke machines, bubbles, and colored stage lights. They had a "The Exorcist" theme that night - Wayne as Reagan (Linda Blair), Richard English as the devil, and Michael as the priest. To this day, that's one of my all time favorite shows from any band. Prior to that, all my show experiences where just bands setting up playing the songs without any stage theatrics. Then to see this band who went all out, it raised the bar.<br />
It's funny when you think about how back then there would hardly be anyone at their shows, where nowadays there's tons. And even funnier that Oklahoma City has a street named after them. Whereas back then, I can remember the jocks and rednecks having really adverse reactions to the mere mention of the band. "What is that? Some weird freako-commie shit?!?" Hopefully their kids are now die-hard Flaming Lips fans.<br />
Some of the best flyers in Oklahoma during the 80s were the Flaming Lips flyers that Wayne Coyne would illustrate (Rusty Short, aka Kltuch, also did some great flyers for NOTA, Brown 25, etc as well - I'll make a specific post of those down the road). Everytime I'd see these on the telephone posts I'd have to jump out of the car and grab one. Or take them off the wall at shows (of course once the show was over!).<br />
I remember one time going to Michele Vlasimsky's apartment when she was showing a friend and I how to organize shows and seeing a few more flyers Wayne had done. My mind was completely blown. The stuff was cartoonish, raw, psychedelic, and just all around cool as hell.<br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">I believe this flyer is from 1988.</td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">Promo photo from 1985/1986? </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">From 1986. I hear the building where the Velvet Underground is now gone. </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">I think the Subterranean was the only all-ages show space in Oklahoma during the 80s. I just wish they had more hardcore shows there....</td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">From 1987. Nate's Cafe was a dance club like space on the Northside of town. </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">One of my favorite flyers. I think this was in 1986. </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">I remember this show well. From 1986. The drive home that night was really bizarre. </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">1986. </td></tr>
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;">1988. Whatever happened to Janis Eighteen? I remember there being a local buzz for them. </td></tr>
</tbody></table>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-39601813325432388532010-10-01T22:18:00.000-07:002010-10-01T22:18:51.321-07:00MIX OF FLYERS FROM AROUND THE U.S. DURING THE ''80s.Cleaning out the closet today I found a couple large bags filled with envelopes of my flyer collection. Found some gems in the collection to share. So here's the first of the latest in posts... More to come in the following weeks.<br />
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</div>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-43495064164372948092009-07-09T22:28:00.000-07:002009-07-09T22:52:51.920-07:00DC hardcore punk flyers<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial;">Here's a few flyers from DC's hardcore punk heyday. I'll scan more when I get the time. Which should be in a couple weeks. </span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7u7ShiHqAaoZR2hyphenhyphenhGuVHcXgHLC8cT3AEcLIeELEfeB6JCjZk2OVCOswRi65E0c89KiJD5eM_o8BB3bzGB6fF2706ZPFTr4p8v6qeuJNa504vcyvegKhdxtmf9ajYKf-LolW67rwc5EnH/s1600-h/soa.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 250px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7u7ShiHqAaoZR2hyphenhyphenhGuVHcXgHLC8cT3AEcLIeELEfeB6JCjZk2OVCOswRi65E0c89KiJD5eM_o8BB3bzGB6fF2706ZPFTr4p8v6qeuJNa504vcyvegKhdxtmf9ajYKf-LolW67rwc5EnH/s320/soa.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5356704406600189362" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJx5nmGlPc-hZColpiuD7WfqKa0CXr5mJRNwIRHgkUjj7FSkAcQi-dnWktQQlZFQK5Tb4sivgF4sF84Z_s1Ckfsnqex-6yNDnjOLduoGdmOxk5OGLfgK7H_9RyK8YzgOpdz8_-enuFntXv/s1600-h/misfits.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 247px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrXfwYrR7_yrDdn2I2KusrA5FSA-WIE01KQRkRWmGbUql_bJZfwVLofB0Kw8rQlob8khBYokPgGQeBVQH0p-7IdtDSTwCjQF-0N4c4EXKMOtSBLD9tzHvsuh7vpXM7DimzVfb3eXZho2bf/s320/battalionofsaints.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5301407739061509090" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOg9FQ0BVak-5mfprh6XGpfR9zr1KOIdcYRUZ6OqSWcfgDDZyYVfvZiRkQamalHHb1hiVjnOUYE0g4ziJhgUwUj4egwvuO3eOp0D6tWtjfWYb6MfYtVa-ZmLo51659LcjRUd03ohGi9Frg/s1600-h/7seconds.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 249px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOg9FQ0BVak-5mfprh6XGpfR9zr1KOIdcYRUZ6OqSWcfgDDZyYVfvZiRkQamalHHb1hiVjnOUYE0g4ziJhgUwUj4egwvuO3eOp0D6tWtjfWYb6MfYtVa-ZmLo51659LcjRUd03ohGi9Frg/s320/7seconds.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5301407735583558450" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOKe1jk_dmzTfBVmSCpF6BIJMTzuqi3cvLVzERmMblqGoEWjC9SHdtDfmCngm3NS-TKVVtYEQJRfXpPU5cxKJdkuhCjYRCJHfuZpc57VhxFgcpwVui-6EiGquZE-WKDB6tqy4V3oaUDgvH/s1600-h/anotherstateof.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 249px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgOKe1jk_dmzTfBVmSCpF6BIJMTzuqi3cvLVzERmMblqGoEWjC9SHdtDfmCngm3NS-TKVVtYEQJRfXpPU5cxKJdkuhCjYRCJHfuZpc57VhxFgcpwVui-6EiGquZE-WKDB6tqy4V3oaUDgvH/s320/anotherstateof.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5301407728185452130" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-8414062398725188042008-12-21T20:28:00.000-08:002008-12-21T20:38:35.895-08:00SOCIAL UNREST, RATCAGE, ROUGHTRADE, GANG GREEN - and still more old ads.Here's some more old ads from MRR. Enjoy the Ratcage ad for Heart Attack. Does anyone know if the person who ran Ratcage wrote graffiti? His letters are awesome. Also, scope the ads for Poison Distribution from Italy, and Brutal Chaos Records. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2rzf_erHr7VlP_eKe34ctyAq4RE3pfEFGzAAhICOMMEwVbIZ61sFlo0LeJTiqV9r6w7RDbV9Ec8d4jfUcgik1LG75XE2w-K6k3ouRBG6YFKPF1fzvO8iyUK9ql_r_be4IBSCdZ6XQHQC/s1600-h/socialunrest.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjX2rzf_erHr7VlP_eKe34ctyAq4RE3pfEFGzAAhICOMMEwVbIZ61sFlo0LeJTiqV9r6w7RDbV9Ec8d4jfUcgik1LG75XE2w-K6k3ouRBG6YFKPF1fzvO8iyUK9ql_r_be4IBSCdZ6XQHQC/s320/socialunrest.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467964620178130" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3rzSjHLin41MIlDdZKrPvTCaRg2IASroUrnbqsNSgCFm-gqwbCZrpotJ8rM0NBfiPlzH-97Xy3gD19G3u2iVTQfwWPBcy_Mzr6EmrKFcOn4pOkHsE0hPkpzBs8ATmxYXyNUSclBBXC9JI/s1600-h/brutalchaos.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 171px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh3rzSjHLin41MIlDdZKrPvTCaRg2IASroUrnbqsNSgCFm-gqwbCZrpotJ8rM0NBfiPlzH-97Xy3gD19G3u2iVTQfwWPBcy_Mzr6EmrKFcOn4pOkHsE0hPkpzBs8ATmxYXyNUSclBBXC9JI/s320/brutalchaos.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467951891713378" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIp-8gyCfAPD4bMdsoDE1088zc0Y0xPtVspUF9Ii7NCWnbVUU3tMCkiIY98Gc-zWgTE-vj2PSgCmY2VUx1obvWuGgOfT3J37uuZ4YRYsi6FiyF4F6St7lGV8F8a-IT4356JEt1Khm-os6y/s1600-h/ganggreen.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 200px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiIp-8gyCfAPD4bMdsoDE1088zc0Y0xPtVspUF9Ii7NCWnbVUU3tMCkiIY98Gc-zWgTE-vj2PSgCmY2VUx1obvWuGgOfT3J37uuZ4YRYsi6FiyF4F6St7lGV8F8a-IT4356JEt1Khm-os6y/s320/ganggreen.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467311823495650" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYzAWOzbTGNJ273Qo1zuKNNZEkoUraC5q99ymIZtTjFeHfigT9w7f_oe-bR3VShjK8EmmTcYhTqA_ID3YQCANn3_h0zm8_69E7ixJBWV9sdJtPRfuY75YAntGua8lEgs-ggRuiPy9kbN4F/s1600-h/ratcage:heartattack.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 192px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhYzAWOzbTGNJ273Qo1zuKNNZEkoUraC5q99ymIZtTjFeHfigT9w7f_oe-bR3VShjK8EmmTcYhTqA_ID3YQCANn3_h0zm8_69E7ixJBWV9sdJtPRfuY75YAntGua8lEgs-ggRuiPy9kbN4F/s320/ratcage:heartattack.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467307852765746" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3OttB3hcBDGRoJ5oPUrv98oIIsP6tbV1wjzGTjAN4Np8G3QtDUoWGEt3Vy7WY_GSr9PwRrHrTW-buIRvACqIZhr6gbfEedIVPXSWABhzlgoxFzSfteFfMDDuPQM1nCjmOP0v4lcmn_xWQ/s1600-h/mdc.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 228px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg3OttB3hcBDGRoJ5oPUrv98oIIsP6tbV1wjzGTjAN4Np8G3QtDUoWGEt3Vy7WY_GSr9PwRrHrTW-buIRvACqIZhr6gbfEedIVPXSWABhzlgoxFzSfteFfMDDuPQM1nCjmOP0v4lcmn_xWQ/s320/mdc.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467300433278434" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpcOR_bg-ZCn0Hfjg1UangJzl9BB73pMYFHm9-VJyfRgK6UE7vrpxScblQcZipLzCTgwc-1hc4NWn4DCQvCQ8aUKorFBdeuwnWyYjwU_c_rnpOoGnxqAqR2BCK4emWyrmsQ5NEL7iSv5US/s1600-h/roughtrade.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 246px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhpcOR_bg-ZCn0Hfjg1UangJzl9BB73pMYFHm9-VJyfRgK6UE7vrpxScblQcZipLzCTgwc-1hc4NWn4DCQvCQ8aUKorFBdeuwnWyYjwU_c_rnpOoGnxqAqR2BCK4emWyrmsQ5NEL7iSv5US/s320/roughtrade.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467295159844610" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxRTqUHc9BGKLTXNjKSmeSboB8Fxje6CO1O8-04yZxelKXpWvFxJ1MLRi2UTH-kaOS8uT5Qwg-rjr3wpBB-FSL4oG8npSP8eSUYm2dKtvMi1Q0uaTrbJv1NO9TsZHdDwZ00oCrVYYmL-r_/s1600-h/poisondistro.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgxRTqUHc9BGKLTXNjKSmeSboB8Fxje6CO1O8-04yZxelKXpWvFxJ1MLRi2UTH-kaOS8uT5Qwg-rjr3wpBB-FSL4oG8npSP8eSUYm2dKtvMi1Q0uaTrbJv1NO9TsZHdDwZ00oCrVYYmL-r_/s320/poisondistro.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5282467287326596818" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-18382687665111263682008-12-18T20:43:00.000-08:002008-12-18T20:50:32.451-08:00Old ads of Septic Death, Wipers, XClaim!, and more.Continuing with the posting of old ads from MRR and Flpside... <br /><br />I found the Fartz ad interesting, as they announce they are becoming 10 Minute Hate. The Septic Death ad with Pushead art, and the rest. Enjoy. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-E_aeBunD35Q4cdPCvpLghK8meXbpt_r66XxxeM9cJiRl6FkpTnDQDAYAEPwGqMV6T6bMHtBalhFAIZFv0xEFpEnZ9cgw1My-dvBt-jvpsX8ifVn1A_jKl7wmiTu9fWViM5wzviF0moat/s1600-h/wipers.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 214px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-E_aeBunD35Q4cdPCvpLghK8meXbpt_r66XxxeM9cJiRl6FkpTnDQDAYAEPwGqMV6T6bMHtBalhFAIZFv0xEFpEnZ9cgw1My-dvBt-jvpsX8ifVn1A_jKl7wmiTu9fWViM5wzviF0moat/s320/wipers.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281357756579869042" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGmmHwtjgN-yjhHJ7Kt4hJOXYOllNXASJdY99X5CTlgeIsv3pa_PVByX25ewMbwDuA9jqkJbCqFd0NS-VSG8wM5R8XRu7LuOUSrQtroyAVWFg4iAoMfVdUgVmc1BvGcN5xOT6GQT6RiX6j/s1600-h/fartz.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 254px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhGmmHwtjgN-yjhHJ7Kt4hJOXYOllNXASJdY99X5CTlgeIsv3pa_PVByX25ewMbwDuA9jqkJbCqFd0NS-VSG8wM5R8XRu7LuOUSrQtroyAVWFg4iAoMfVdUgVmc1BvGcN5xOT6GQT6RiX6j/s320/fartz.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281357748961324946" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTk1h_MxrfGvCHeEj4YWn1LG1MaR6JfN__5pY9TCEtcLwalYZptUHPo8BhtH0vEvAZYkSCF6N-omWrgTK82X8Kwrf6VUeuI5tXAj2Q1LTi5iunAKtdLvL-WDCanp822474Y4LPlIaHQkRS/s1600-h/septicdeath.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 220px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjTk1h_MxrfGvCHeEj4YWn1LG1MaR6JfN__5pY9TCEtcLwalYZptUHPo8BhtH0vEvAZYkSCF6N-omWrgTK82X8Kwrf6VUeuI5tXAj2Q1LTi5iunAKtdLvL-WDCanp822474Y4LPlIaHQkRS/s320/septicdeath.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281357742089837826" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIJYh3hfF-rGL4FJS1X2T6lPv-tUtx0LqvjfZowbyAoLdCP2vcExzWhS_jrfKHyT9tN49NRCzA6RFVseChqwVgZAdDdTm5rHTTuxegejYxmtAtNKmWdrchbFokld-ohyphenhyphenIUB4cvVXX529lM/s1600-h/xclaim.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 246px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIJYh3hfF-rGL4FJS1X2T6lPv-tUtx0LqvjfZowbyAoLdCP2vcExzWhS_jrfKHyT9tN49NRCzA6RFVseChqwVgZAdDdTm5rHTTuxegejYxmtAtNKmWdrchbFokld-ohyphenhyphenIUB4cvVXX529lM/s320/xclaim.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281357741072321250" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwv8IDw5nCqw6EgOhrnrgHpAfO6Yu4wEG49sz-dcArhABw6B53DzgIua28l4t_Yu33wcA3KmBKHvWGy2ESbHmV4B8bkuFnBBWXqDNg-KIVk95_EeMWsYETPduv4XXQENsuiszdmgy2wyKg/s1600-h/heart+attack.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 211px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwv8IDw5nCqw6EgOhrnrgHpAfO6Yu4wEG49sz-dcArhABw6B53DzgIua28l4t_Yu33wcA3KmBKHvWGy2ESbHmV4B8bkuFnBBWXqDNg-KIVk95_EeMWsYETPduv4XXQENsuiszdmgy2wyKg/s320/heart+attack.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281357737363886994" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-43172298666531369492008-12-17T22:09:00.000-08:002008-12-17T22:13:04.145-08:00-16--16- have been around for some time. The first time I had seen them live was at Gilman sometime around 1993/94. They were sandwiched on a bill that had Ruins and a few other bands I have long forgotten. I've always thought they were a great band with their heavy riffs and crunching rhythms. They played at the Relax Bar recently. Most of the set was new material on their new album "Bridges To Burn" (coming in January on Relapse). All the new songs obliterate their old material. Not to say the old stuff was shabby. Far from it. This new stuff is just more sonic and all around heavy. Needless to say, I'm looking forward to picking up the new release. They have a record release show coming up in January at ARt & Mayhem. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxqD5V2dCTHYiClgk8qpIm1UYq-Efr9t6gAGu20wxVG505laqfFkOsk3JC-piUbnnJnhKgzzDOH-8ueFMeHx8VMFzbskyERMYE8fG3PP5GEPRLWLV2H28cn_rspQQ_m-NON2YIJgY91oFu/s1600-h/-16-@relax12.7.08-7.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 180px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxqD5V2dCTHYiClgk8qpIm1UYq-Efr9t6gAGu20wxVG505laqfFkOsk3JC-piUbnnJnhKgzzDOH-8ueFMeHx8VMFzbskyERMYE8fG3PP5GEPRLWLV2H28cn_rspQQ_m-NON2YIJgY91oFu/s320/-16-@relax12.7.08-7.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5281009000920060914" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhw9XteC7CdCyZplvfY7jKn_o6NxN_9E5mUVVcObC6M6CG6L19iVXZpTEtUYT4krhVnrmpfVV1YSoBmropGwpwsi0GtIDoOiCoyL0TxRPNQcijD3GUwUpiVuiJBVn0cE4M2HqidYry_zuqD/s1600-h/-16-@relax12.7.08-2.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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More to come. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1EiXvL76SjTeSc13p6ySJTRnYFyCURhwnj0P8b_g9XfTA7ua8e9wtKXRk2g5mPaA_x8RVy94SVgn1Xt3t4bApGM1PXrgjItSAMzzQJUs7RlgoSBohv2GlCP2-sys4sglfxw4bFKGYp14d/s1600-h/feederz.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 218px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj1EiXvL76SjTeSc13p6ySJTRnYFyCURhwnj0P8b_g9XfTA7ua8e9wtKXRk2g5mPaA_x8RVy94SVgn1Xt3t4bApGM1PXrgjItSAMzzQJUs7RlgoSBohv2GlCP2-sys4sglfxw4bFKGYp14d/s320/feederz.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279888225045758834" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLZzmoEia9MDdu0xpNSLjivJ0JcZv-L5J_JLMyR6ywww6VarC_t5ZRokTgGSJ42lTme4Mq8J_L__USY4qI9OvDEmCR40f9AuPJ5JJhT5IMVsNYln808cD4EUbT1ryzntSzSWorL8Wo2QBV/s1600-h/reallyfast.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 317px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiLZzmoEia9MDdu0xpNSLjivJ0JcZv-L5J_JLMyR6ywww6VarC_t5ZRokTgGSJ42lTme4Mq8J_L__USY4qI9OvDEmCR40f9AuPJ5JJhT5IMVsNYln808cD4EUbT1ryzntSzSWorL8Wo2QBV/s320/reallyfast.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279888219176855362" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWn5IPPtbvGdsstW84PqPZmwcEAVmUGwGgplQ21jyNQzT9MFWyrQkbNMS5Aq1thNmfwDFbDaugG8e0EZjArVvLGzpeOAY9UlfUZdQynypVlYwlDyp45x3SaBvkBb4A-9izHWQzuIMf4lmg/s1600-h/rtcage:cfa.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 316px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWn5IPPtbvGdsstW84PqPZmwcEAVmUGwGgplQ21jyNQzT9MFWyrQkbNMS5Aq1thNmfwDFbDaugG8e0EZjArVvLGzpeOAY9UlfUZdQynypVlYwlDyp45x3SaBvkBb4A-9izHWQzuIMf4lmg/s320/rtcage:cfa.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279888215368993506" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSpmDAzLUSZ8jF3YQ8Q9oNQwGfK0eK5_910D8rFAR0gQSfH9uaoApjN-GWGfsDo7h0PiqeN_vNkvgQcV3xTJmgFjY-Rblem7_o7la5-dDcPfPSSaS9U3JF5DGTuRGxij_kZx-JgHHP37GT/s1600-h/coc.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 192px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgSpmDAzLUSZ8jF3YQ8Q9oNQwGfK0eK5_910D8rFAR0gQSfH9uaoApjN-GWGfsDo7h0PiqeN_vNkvgQcV3xTJmgFjY-Rblem7_o7la5-dDcPfPSSaS9U3JF5DGTuRGxij_kZx-JgHHP37GT/s320/coc.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279888208805348594" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-27325196665966447712008-12-14T21:33:00.000-08:002008-12-14T21:39:15.431-08:00more old adsHere's more ads from old issues of Maximum Rocknroll and a very early issue of Flipside. Enjoy. Of course, don't even think of writing to any of these addresses. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiS8q8EUn6n0O5LpC6Lj1yb4EU1zBZU4D625WVJI9MVi_qifMKwYNWsKcea3djufbXuuo17SIX-OmMXyTPUannSWvAB68v5Q_VSFOald3lPmvi4wRK2upXSEV8PqR2OkvBIQ6JERdM-AQ7v/s1600-h/xcentric.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 222px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiS8q8EUn6n0O5LpC6Lj1yb4EU1zBZU4D625WVJI9MVi_qifMKwYNWsKcea3djufbXuuo17SIX-OmMXyTPUannSWvAB68v5Q_VSFOald3lPmvi4wRK2upXSEV8PqR2OkvBIQ6JERdM-AQ7v/s320/xcentric.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279886782305903666" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiuiaBqPZTKuPSpVqM9cJcw1HjZBCwxmHjf7hBdvg9do8Jar5LfY43Q05o8YgXBlFQEBB2P3BGmefffjdom-SrgvMuXvLnz4GCSagQbcl2nNPsEtnqP6JSrMqp75DoncDXzrRJm_bnbPTfZ/s1600-h/radiobeat.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 238px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjc5A2VCCL4vWuT9T0pbz3sGqzr_S73DyopyQY6IVptsP5Z2ls0_SDVYC2CezOMJGCTaTIerrXcSMUoPT_0rFw0M1w65tKVtfBBQGctgyX6TuxW2seDkvWquwDxQaZRKYzNeFVglCLIAR9G/s320/misguided.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279886362101908962" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOuMu6KLVv1a-gWN-1uCGe3teuz7hXGC_tR-M18lXGpFBbuD4A4LF23Q9AFx462Lz9xxQ7grTjz2SwnD-SFyQZDdYU_ubNsL13nD7fbiiNRa-bt_fa5qcPUmq3rxb6REqVR_HVcfFaO7ra/s1600-h/fang.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 233px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjOuMu6KLVv1a-gWN-1uCGe3teuz7hXGC_tR-M18lXGpFBbuD4A4LF23Q9AFx462Lz9xxQ7grTjz2SwnD-SFyQZDdYU_ubNsL13nD7fbiiNRa-bt_fa5qcPUmq3rxb6REqVR_HVcfFaO7ra/s320/fang.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279886357809006178" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZrtBFJNa73rScjw30DjJWgVM3OWOCAmzupQbYW0atueFS7HKUZi19FcbxWjr8amIlcVISYokIVHP44gWNE1ZBgyoARP-g5oyDGCN9C8RHuvtTaKupwtJRfKhGwaRVNXhC_pUS2-Tt9fx9/s1600-h/blackflag.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 250px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgZrtBFJNa73rScjw30DjJWgVM3OWOCAmzupQbYW0atueFS7HKUZi19FcbxWjr8amIlcVISYokIVHP44gWNE1ZBgyoARP-g5oyDGCN9C8RHuvtTaKupwtJRfKhGwaRVNXhC_pUS2-Tt9fx9/s320/blackflag.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279886353219076562" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-86174122281301582752008-12-14T19:41:00.001-08:002008-12-14T20:00:47.187-08:00Some old ads. Check those prices!!Here's a few ads from a couple old issues of MRR. I find the Ratcage Records ad the most visually appealing. There's no graphic art, but the lettering is so well done and interesting that it more than makes up for the lack of any photo or line art. Really, the letters themselves are art. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgaJdmvneNNE8ZpFjOGrKYdQyad1xL7ab-y8MfQpSyNUW2QyCYZdHjUKShacXViK0sWFbC6XiR4l1Zzs5d_y-oSnKa3z8PCF5WuWXIwOOnnslMSdHg-wLJaI2_fXdbwd8tYKlMoQA4Gci14/s1600-h/ratcage.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 319px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgaJdmvneNNE8ZpFjOGrKYdQyad1xL7ab-y8MfQpSyNUW2QyCYZdHjUKShacXViK0sWFbC6XiR4l1Zzs5d_y-oSnKa3z8PCF5WuWXIwOOnnslMSdHg-wLJaI2_fXdbwd8tYKlMoQA4Gci14/s320/ratcage.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279857514094029570" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyP3tV80HjJ_eVBZltNbuWCbz4JeaxC1sydr_FqUwdgR7QOGOO0bcX39dzf0Wv_jtsxvsPJO3uciqx3H9Z0kw8EA_h7jqT7LCWg2WYxXMgE06q9-LIY-o2Q-rQppvSz0mhoQXz-Pq72VAV/s1600-h/notrend.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 319px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjyP3tV80HjJ_eVBZltNbuWCbz4JeaxC1sydr_FqUwdgR7QOGOO0bcX39dzf0Wv_jtsxvsPJO3uciqx3H9Z0kw8EA_h7jqT7LCWg2WYxXMgE06q9-LIY-o2Q-rQppvSz0mhoQXz-Pq72VAV/s320/notrend.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279857502787657746" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRRHH1ks9IS5H3z63TuYCmLkizwZe52CeCf2Wzg3OetV1YRW91fGeiDqkdQz-BKGJ3iF6Yy3XGlBQ56rNtT4uzDzliDSZRBXMjVBi3EjdOpXA-CEfBZrgd-bofpvZAkEM_3MV1HSUI5BC8/s1600-h/cottagecheese.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 208px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhRRHH1ks9IS5H3z63TuYCmLkizwZe52CeCf2Wzg3OetV1YRW91fGeiDqkdQz-BKGJ3iF6Yy3XGlBQ56rNtT4uzDzliDSZRBXMjVBi3EjdOpXA-CEfBZrgd-bofpvZAkEM_3MV1HSUI5BC8/s320/cottagecheese.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279857491268574530" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikYzPpTRrFbEOcQg6sixwTbUqFqjNAoK9OTR58apC_8aMNkhGoAQC5LakHHHg8-5LCEygU5KmXvZlr_k0WgUVHyNjIqUClxEOv3TYxMKQgY0PwiuxVKGEchQLEmf-E8TKHRxjFMV2oGK7-/s1600-h/plan9.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 316px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikYzPpTRrFbEOcQg6sixwTbUqFqjNAoK9OTR58apC_8aMNkhGoAQC5LakHHHg8-5LCEygU5KmXvZlr_k0WgUVHyNjIqUClxEOv3TYxMKQgY0PwiuxVKGEchQLEmf-E8TKHRxjFMV2oGK7-/s320/plan9.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279857486381365170" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizI6GIVW0iIpCdCKZ2Nk_peurGAY7zw3WYhgiOPgln33WWLbX4qF6cBj00CedmCl3aE3WxXZPGAnRm_wfm8uIy7LAFMH-WPNX4bMEwOMke0u2H-bkTQCtjM12LK_S5-K_tXiqLiWhQn2cv/s1600-h/affirmation.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 215px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEizI6GIVW0iIpCdCKZ2Nk_peurGAY7zw3WYhgiOPgln33WWLbX4qF6cBj00CedmCl3aE3WxXZPGAnRm_wfm8uIy7LAFMH-WPNX4bMEwOMke0u2H-bkTQCtjM12LK_S5-K_tXiqLiWhQn2cv/s320/affirmation.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5279857475262655106" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-61633850672408912812008-11-11T21:33:00.000-08:002008-11-11T21:44:02.516-08:00INSTIGATORS interview<span style="font-weight:bold;">This is a pretty lengthy interview I did through the mail with Andy from the Instigators. He sent out letters to various fanzines prior to their US tour in 1986 to get interviews and spread the word they were coming over. Needless to say, I was way beyond stoked. They toured with the Detonators (Redondo Beach, CA) and played at the Velvet Underground in OKC on August 4, 1986. Still one of the best shows I have ever seen. Easily in my top five. The local openers were 151 Black Bats, which I believe had members from Brown 25. Anyway, Nick Toczek also toured with the Detonators and Instigators. First spoken word performance I ever experienced. The Detonators were amazing. I remember they ended one song, and the drummer kept raging away. The singer turned and had to physically get him to stop. Then the Instigators took the stage and absolutely destroyed!!! <br />From stop to start they were an intense mass of energy. The bass player kept jumping from the stage and standing on the floor while everyone circle pitted around him. Andy, the singer, prowled back and forth on the stage belting out song after song. At the end, he climbs on to a speaker, jumps into the air, and goes through the drop tiled ceiling. The tiles come crashing down, and a huge cloud of dust follows with it. Andy slowly looks up and everyone is going crazy. <br />This interview ran in Schizo, and was the longest I had ever done at that point. Most of these questions are pretty lame, and I can't believe Andy even took the time to answer them, looking back. But I was stoked. Obviously, I've held on to that letter/interview for over 22 years now. Crazy...<br /><br />Who are the members of the Instigators, and how long have you been around? </span><br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4B2qiw6e2z8IySLfFBDP6fvLbWgAXh5w7_QzZom_qmBOByVa4smIBgThq9qBuTPWfpiTttddMFVhvNedGMZcyR65EZib6tiu5o2FiVysswoBRm2QriHhMJ2xVxrj3MQYGOQ_2IWcMYcNj/s1600-h/instigatorspressclipping.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 290px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg4B2qiw6e2z8IySLfFBDP6fvLbWgAXh5w7_QzZom_qmBOByVa4smIBgThq9qBuTPWfpiTttddMFVhvNedGMZcyR65EZib6tiu5o2FiVysswoBRm2QriHhMJ2xVxrj3MQYGOQ_2IWcMYcNj/s320/instigatorspressclipping.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267642618536957138" /></a><br /><br />Andy : Instigators are: Simon Mooney - guitar, Andy Turner - vocals, Steve Curran - drums, Andy Turnbull - bass. Instigators, as a band, have been around since 1981, but this is the line-up, although only being together for about a year have been very active playing nearly as many times in twelve months as the old line-up did in about four years. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What has become of the ex-members of the Instigators? </span><br /><br />Andy : The first one to leave, Semi, the old singer, who quit last May just as the LP was released, is now trying to fit into the monotony of small town life, not wishing to overstep the lines drawn by his peers and his friends. One of the reasons he left/was thrown out (it's debatable) was the hold his girlfriend had over him, which caused a lot of ill feeling among the old line-up. Both Tab (the old bassist) and Hammy (ex-drummer) quit at the same time, but for different reasons. It was at a time when Instigators were beginning to get serious and were making the transition from being something done in their spare time to being a full time working unit, geared to touring. Hammy couldn't take the pace and was relying heavily on alcohol and his private life was really getting fucked up, so he needed time to get his shit together and thought he wouldn't be able to do it by remaining in Instigators. He's the only one of the people who quit that's still active in bands. He's regretting leaving, and is now singing for a band called Civilized Society. Tab felt he needed the security of his day job - something he would have had to give up to take on the band full time. The crux of it is me and Simon had faith, the others didn't and now they're stuck in the same old rut as all the people around them. They're on the heap. Tough shit!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are some of your songs about? </span><br /><br />Andy : They relay personal feeling towards various thing, we don't start out with a set pattern at writing lyrics, so we don't get bogged down in the same old cliched traps as the safe zone punks do, we don't feel the need to force ourselves to write 'punk' lyrics (I'm not saying these are irrelevant, but too many bands see things like nuclear war as being an easy way to let people know they're a 'punk band'- we're more into honest feelings, too many people just re-hash various pamphlets. I like lyrics that confront and provoke thought). We touch on various subjects, far too many and widespread to explain. Lyrics are what you make of them. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Where do you get the ideas for your songs?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Again, it depends on the song. We're inspired by what we feel and what we see around us. Things we feel strongly about, or things we feel need to be conveyed to more people who perhaps are unaware of some of the injustices that are happening right under their noses. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What made you decide to start Instigators? </span><br /><br />Andy : I can't really answer that because I only joined the band a year ago. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What songs do you enjoy the most? </span><br /><br />Andy : I can only speak for myself, but I enjoy playing all the songs we play live. If any of us didn't really like them, then I don't think we'd do them. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How long do your shows usually last?</span> <br /><br />Andy : It really depends on the atmosphere. It can vary between our standard set of about 30 to 35 minutes to 1 1/2 hours, when we couldn't get off stage in Germany. We prefer the shorter sets as things tend to get boring the longer it goes on. We hit hard and fast, and what happens next is up to the people we're trying to impress. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">About how many songs do you play in your set?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Usually about twelve, with some left over just in case we get called back to do more. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Are any of you straight-edge? </span><br /><br />Andy : No, none of us are. But that doesn't mean we all drink to excess either. We know when to stop, we don't need some moral majority type organization to tell us what we can or can't do. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How do you usually deal with problems in your life?</span> <br /><br />Andy : That depends on what the problem is really. I could become irrational or sit and think it out, depending on my mood or situation. At the moment we have very few major problems to deal with. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What is your opinion on the American government? </span><br /><br />Andy : Who actually runs America? Is it Reagan and his circus, or is it multi-nationals like Coca- Cola? I'm not really in a position to judge, you'd better answer for me. After all, you have to live there - we only have a government that does all America's dirty work. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you think metalcore, speed metal, or whatever that mixes punk with heavy metal, will ruin punk?</span><br /><br />Andy : I think apathy on a grand scale, like what we're suffering here in the UK at the moment, is far more of a problem. We should all be open-minded enough to listen to anything, but too many people are insecure and feel the need to belong to some group of people. They seek sanctuary among all the things they're supposed to be breaking down. All these little cliques are a drag though. Whatever happened to unity and open-mindedness? <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Are any of you vegetarians?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Well, three of us don't eat meat and one does, but that's no big deal. We don't try to pressure people into anything, you can't do that, people have to see for themselves, you can't force them. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What is your favorite food? </span><br /><br />Andy : Our favorite tour food is most definitely pizzas, so when we roll into Moore, OK you'll know what to stock your freezer with, as well as the Budweisers won't you Matt?<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you have a favorite movie? </span><br /><br />Andy : I have a few favorites; Apocalypse Now, Blues Brothers, Cabaret. I thought Gremlins and Ghostbusters were both fun, and there's more, but I can't remember them at the moment. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who is your favorite band and what's your favorite song? Why?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Real hard! I don't have a favorite band, but here's some bands I like at the moment, the reasons are pretty different bit the main link is they appeal to me. Bands like Husker Du, DOA, Toxic Reasons, MC5, Rolling Stones, The Cult, Agent Orange, Patti Smith, Iron Maiden, and many more. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Any ideas to bring about world peace? </span><br /><br />Andy : Eliminate greed. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your feelings towards religion? </span><br /><br />Andy : Religion, in the same way as politics, should be a very personal thing. I've grown to despise people trying to ram something down my throat. If people need something to believe in, then who am I to take that away from them. I personally don't need that. I don't need all the shit that goes with it. The wars, the hatred, the repression. the petty morality that goes hand in hand with it. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your feelings on racism? </span><br /><br />Andy : The same as I feel towards sexism. People have no right to judge people by the amount of x chromosomes or the colour of their skin. Think hard about it, it's so fucking childish. It's like kids at school getting at the fat kid or the girl with glasses. Some people never grow up. After all, what kind of a person runs round at night wearing a sheet and a pointy pillow-case on his head? Real people can handle the real world!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who was the first punk band you saw in concert? </span><br /><br />Andy : It was Siouxsie & the Banshees at the Huddersfield Polytechnic in 1978. The week after I went to Victoria Park, London to the big Rock Against Racism festival with the Clash, Tom Robinson Band, Xray Spex, and more, with 80,000 people. Great stuff!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do any of you have jobs besides the band? Do you like the idea of holding down a job? </span><br /><br />Andy : No, none of us have enough spare time to work outside Instigators. None of us could hold a job down full time due to all the touring we do. I don't really want to work for somebody else. I don't believe in the work ethic. I'm not lazy, but I don't wanna slave to line someone elses pocket. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzShpNwSUuTCdVSGvAXSZJdOpE5x-YUt2lqJgCvNqTY6OnAk5DbRXk2c_a0OHJAKCRhlqm7CvekLNFl9lR0dZpnHjC6TzE4wK1pnCtxU-YzSFVIoLa-Le2V2ptGMykv5Wf6q6MQV0no4i8/s1600-h/instigatorscover.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 314px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjzShpNwSUuTCdVSGvAXSZJdOpE5x-YUt2lqJgCvNqTY6OnAk5DbRXk2c_a0OHJAKCRhlqm7CvekLNFl9lR0dZpnHjC6TzE4wK1pnCtxU-YzSFVIoLa-Le2V2ptGMykv5Wf6q6MQV0no4i8/s320/instigatorscover.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267642114131232178" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What cities are you looking forward to playing here in the USA?</span> <br /><br />Andy : I hope to be able to make it to places like Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Dallas, Memphis, Anchorage would be nice. Anywhere would be nice. The more places the better. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How many shows do you have set up for the tour so far? </span><br /><br />Andy : I don't know. Juan from the Detonators is organizing the tour. He'll let us know when everything is sorted out. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you think there will ever be a nuclear war or World War 3? </span><br /><br />Andy : I hope not, but it's hard to believe there won't be. I hope I never live to experience it. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your views on punk? </span><br /><br />Andy : It should be something flexible, a state of mind. Not a style of music, not a dress code, but a positive attitude. Something to do with changem with trying to better yourself without having to submit to all the petty rules and regulations. Control as much of your destiny as possible. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Is there a lot of violence in the scene where you live?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Not really. But that's mainly down to the fact there isn't really a scene at all!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What is the neighborhood like that you live in? </span><br /><br />Andy : Typical of most Northern towns and cities that were built around the prosperous wool / cotton industries that flourished at the end of the last century, but suffered after the second World War. Rows and rows of terraced houses, very gray, very industrialized, a major driving force behind getting away and hopefully never coming back. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What kind of people live on your street?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Most of our street is made up of Asians who work bad hours, but unlike the more densely populated areas, Blacks, Whites, Greens, etc, all mix okay. Because they all work weird hours (bus drivers, taxi drivers) there's no pressure on us to turn the noise down. That's good. <br />I gotta mention our next door neighbours, Jeepers Creepers and his wife who's expecting her first baby and they look after our cat, Marvin, while we're away. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are some of the things you hate?</span> <br /><br />Andy : Apathy, boredom, golf, meat, jerkoffs, football fans (the ones who live up to the stereotypes), snooker, winter, the time between tours, frustration, and more. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Is there a club that you particularly enjoy playing? </span><br /><br />Andy : I don't really know, I don't think the place plays a big part. It's the situation and the atmosphere that makes it memorable and places here in Europe don't usually last that long anyway. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">I've been told that the TV show, I Love Lucy, is shown all over the world. So, is it shown in England? </span><br /><br />Andy : Yes it is. sometimes. But it's really unfunny. The Munsters, and Adams Family are much better. Lucille Ball is so boring!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Describe a funny experience that has happened to you while on tour</span>.<br /><br />Andy : What we may think is funny might not be the same to you. There's a lot of in jokes, but things like Steve hiding in a cardboard box in Stockholm that I thought had a TV in, and then scaring me to death when I opened it. Or the tappings I heard in the hotel in Alkmaar, Holland, or all the band doipng the encore in Ffeuzheim, Germany in our underpants for a laugh. We do get pretty childish on tour. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How does your family treat you since you're in a band? Do they ever ask you things like why are you doing it, or when will you grow up</span>? <br /><br />Andy : They've gotten used to it. At first it used to piss them off that I didn't have a 'real' job. But now they realize it's what I want to do, and they don't mind. All they've got to do it look around them and see the people I went to school with sink deeper and deeper, and go nowhere. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are some of your bad habits? </span><br /><br />Andy : Biting my nails, drugs (in moderation), drinking wine, still getting enthusiastic about playing, becoming obnoxious with people I don't want to talk to, cravings for Jack Daniels, and watching terrible TV soap operas. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What compilations have you appeared on, and what songs did you put on the comps? </span><br /><br />Andy : We've been on too many tapes to start to mention, some we don't even know about. So I'll stick to the records; "Monkey Man" and Old Soldiers" were on "Bollocks To The Gonads" LP, "Dine Upon The Dead" is on "We Don't Want Your Fucking War" LP, and "The Blood Is On Your Hands", "53rd State", "Free", and "Wrong Word" were on Pushead's "Cleanse The Bacteria" LP. We have tracks coming out on a few more compilations soon. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What is the legal drinking age where you live? </span><br /><br />Andy : Eighteen, but no one adheres to it. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">When was the first time you performed? </span><br /><br />Andy : Me and Andy were in a band called Xpozez, and our first gig was here in Huddersfield on St. Valentine's Day (14th, February 1980). It seems like ages. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How do you feel about life? </span><br /><br />Andy : I enjoy it. I have a rule that if I don't enjoy something any more then I cease to do it. The same goes for life. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you have a favorite recipe or joke you'd like to tell?</span><br /><br />Andy : We can't cook anything here as we had our gas cut off at Christmas, so we have no favorite recipes. We live on pizzas and sandwiches. Didn't anyone ever tell you that anarchists had no sense of humour?Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-4144829729282467942008-11-11T21:24:00.000-08:002008-11-11T21:32:22.004-08:00BAY AREA PUNK FLYERS part 1Here are a few flyers from the Bay Area, late 70s to early 80s. Largely from San Francisco. Enjoy...<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgE9dHrBayF-1o1eHJqbp-8JOo5K09Ucdi0EtEWkj6mvTbcu3AhEUALaB9cYNbuCo3gaNzQKG7-LUb93ypwaRBKJ7iN5EzH_cs9YUsdMoWP_-NofSxbkUaq5LRuAqWEtXK6Lbh8Wk4yB3Mg/s1600-h/xtargetvideoshoot.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 248px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgE9dHrBayF-1o1eHJqbp-8JOo5K09Ucdi0EtEWkj6mvTbcu3AhEUALaB9cYNbuCo3gaNzQKG7-LUb93ypwaRBKJ7iN5EzH_cs9YUsdMoWP_-NofSxbkUaq5LRuAqWEtXK6Lbh8Wk4yB3Mg/s320/xtargetvideoshoot.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267639529096263618" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjpauHfSL5qbKD4aBrUokM2ZHSuIZJK2I8F4BXNxLrq_XpAl6guzgdZaGF6gPD1EmxnwD2Hjy6Chmi4Nq0AVAl6cwkoovjgt8nOBOYca4cmYcYQp1daK4wPKpOcHt75bSQK2LcKLLRmtr9B/s1600-h/minorthreat.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 248px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUsLHs9A_Ejit5gg9jSLTw0DCpd3xJ2iYePnNuCSkX4px-gXRTb8rCMypzmZsP5_P8n0r3QEPY3GM0iMwGDjM_iyLIm-y1Q0t_GGvyuhDdM7Q19_gnmQcmjBPPAPjBrOAU8i8pOQAmbqq8/s320/vom.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267638671774013778" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikqF0pbM5dmi6sP21KP1ucBjiHmJpZL5gxCLSdjGuTEQHgjwbEsucqpF7GOwa8w5CO9p6MjoD_c2ASAPgOf2YTalkpYwcDy6euW6niE_4HGmCzw0Z2Bhyphenhyphenz_FXmJiD49Vz7eGXsLuv3TmRk/s1600-h/weirdos.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 248px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEikqF0pbM5dmi6sP21KP1ucBjiHmJpZL5gxCLSdjGuTEQHgjwbEsucqpF7GOwa8w5CO9p6MjoD_c2ASAPgOf2YTalkpYwcDy6euW6niE_4HGmCzw0Z2Bhyphenhyphenz_FXmJiD49Vz7eGXsLuv3TmRk/s320/weirdos.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267638662531262322" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-8806220421997262692008-10-28T22:22:00.000-07:002008-10-28T22:27:04.125-07:00OKLAHOMA PUNK FLYERS part 4More flyers, and more to come. Here's a batch from OKC, Tulsa, and Norman. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglL8E9IfTvFM-eq-IOGc1zBVHBNtd3kYMKm8YtyvTbtzykGBjWdCnSMFbPQN5Cgci6vPGjgr2zGh1vmrskyulAn0LYIk1fT0QsbSBTgfl_E0uAvOyUC11M-MOD5THbUXVSOo6n7ljJKl-4/s1600-h/img043.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 245px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEglL8E9IfTvFM-eq-IOGc1zBVHBNtd3kYMKm8YtyvTbtzykGBjWdCnSMFbPQN5Cgci6vPGjgr2zGh1vmrskyulAn0LYIk1fT0QsbSBTgfl_E0uAvOyUC11M-MOD5THbUXVSOo6n7ljJKl-4/s320/img043.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442826378256002" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhZzydLOEaSrb0ELLjOhgqGSrakkOm3XD7x-omPZr6mM1sTwb1wKpTChCIIlT6JCh48lAvWfPR2gLgxu3i9gv9Y8tkje3fz8i3Cyv5138n-MeCzi2cjZZ2XaJdiAUv-oWbgvlVNRdrYmSVF/s1600-h/img045.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhuS1uquIotMRboeDWFierafABYwb6eDhjcwH9hgYzhbVvixsvezxXyhY-fwQXTSeEQxTYUWe-Jj30MslN3uvLJJVZtXxA3ifAyuALHJE7mii3mHH-hjEWcBm0wyNcuOY5cTpUCHWKfN1L8/s320/img042.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442467101071058" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUGULtzqNoKBxj8oGPD5bwYW6OIchj-zix-DBR_lpo70I5iwadU3qhd5yDOmaMRVUmVRjiywF58FQqu17DFly2EGbjldXMZSDbpVFKnahUXmHC8MGjX7lOx0viivfWFMIdz40P-KFgWhep/s1600-h/img044.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgUGULtzqNoKBxj8oGPD5bwYW6OIchj-zix-DBR_lpo70I5iwadU3qhd5yDOmaMRVUmVRjiywF58FQqu17DFly2EGbjldXMZSDbpVFKnahUXmHC8MGjX7lOx0viivfWFMIdz40P-KFgWhep/s320/img044.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442459720003778" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0DuR2jSldF6bRuyXdNhHhSIMg11Dnj0p3IqSzPHOFYbmBab72YVcAHQO-llhcsm_Me4sYHC6wehztMLdTYbcCW8U5nwYQlD42pQHFoBoJ4Y24CJkhYxCGGgznccTi-Z_CE8ekn5BJE1Ff/s1600-h/img039.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 250px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi0DuR2jSldF6bRuyXdNhHhSIMg11Dnj0p3IqSzPHOFYbmBab72YVcAHQO-llhcsm_Me4sYHC6wehztMLdTYbcCW8U5nwYQlD42pQHFoBoJ4Y24CJkhYxCGGgznccTi-Z_CE8ekn5BJE1Ff/s320/img039.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442458916713410" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjxlwgY8OxopEKHn5TVTfa0sANp7iZ74DcUpYy2HLNuCpNPAVkF6IZ8jFGJfmBeFs7xI78A_NG7igYPqZeacOD12d_YL41Zt1yOgodMurN7B3nZJHJbNyJ9DwhNFxK0jezV_oh21la7K0sB/s1600-h/img035.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 246px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjxlwgY8OxopEKHn5TVTfa0sANp7iZ74DcUpYy2HLNuCpNPAVkF6IZ8jFGJfmBeFs7xI78A_NG7igYPqZeacOD12d_YL41Zt1yOgodMurN7B3nZJHJbNyJ9DwhNFxK0jezV_oh21la7K0sB/s320/img035.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442454932612290" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2sLl_4dnEzRZU4nVnHr5s0UT7LbdTgjnwLCQmHbfrwpj1NeakLpOlyjx0TZ4NzPRjKus8XRUl_HhHE2yY_OVNlkMnq6BP15rZc2lsoIL7rvkJnadHIvZlnxcyZsDXj2fh3iGJOjDjMBB_/s1600-h/img031.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi2sLl_4dnEzRZU4nVnHr5s0UT7LbdTgjnwLCQmHbfrwpj1NeakLpOlyjx0TZ4NzPRjKus8XRUl_HhHE2yY_OVNlkMnq6BP15rZc2lsoIL7rvkJnadHIvZlnxcyZsDXj2fh3iGJOjDjMBB_/s320/img031.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262442447436650690" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-3302076128880788192008-10-28T22:14:00.003-07:002008-10-28T22:20:05.995-07:00OKLAHOMA PUNK FLYERS part 3<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmLduhkeQbaXb9Yg_gfqJqGngL1T9Lx43VzQpPMVIUVNahGXWBtwNMI8Y4VeG2P7Wzw7p0EDDzLHhCJJEbBIhjvDynz3V7UVkbvEBFEVDyTdi3kK33ImWHGg2zTLFgXSOaQoCNSo7hKmg3/s1600-h/img036.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 245px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhmLduhkeQbaXb9Yg_gfqJqGngL1T9Lx43VzQpPMVIUVNahGXWBtwNMI8Y4VeG2P7Wzw7p0EDDzLHhCJJEbBIhjvDynz3V7UVkbvEBFEVDyTdi3kK33ImWHGg2zTLFgXSOaQoCNSo7hKmg3/s320/img036.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262440594103744338" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRmC5F99gCj_R4NA1RgWh0lheVJwseGnHhxrtG5kr2rIMHofe-V38JtgrElDGpKWiu1z_Z8lV6vFFlk0UIWk6Pj0SOc1fd9bspVcAdx8-UsuSCbq526MOd5k19LtvMRi_QMOyE4wuz_chW/s1600-h/img033.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 244px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjRmC5F99gCj_R4NA1RgWh0lheVJwseGnHhxrtG5kr2rIMHofe-V38JtgrElDGpKWiu1z_Z8lV6vFFlk0UIWk6Pj0SOc1fd9bspVcAdx8-UsuSCbq526MOd5k19LtvMRi_QMOyE4wuz_chW/s320/img033.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262440587269424050" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWkvLS2SulF7NVljUIm6IVzfCJbsUfJDfiKbpMGu4JPiKDEUhsEYtH_BFhel5HrytS06_Y1CRTd6-9Aa4qhOrpcB3LHKqYEbj25Oyq3zr9W6wZc_M9BOo-yrhYUwhiQs77fZQm8PmXzI1X/s1600-h/img038.jpg"><img style="display:block; 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margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 244px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiMa3lEzh2Mrdn9pMohpQ5wl6waVoCYgX8Jq_zYLXsIUo0Jx_96Oo-n5-jePp-2TzPvp5QRcde4h75M7M1EqQ6YWST8DGvpiU3qdh_7CnDFMlyWnLgewRrS7UUvIwJecra15rrEyZSRBQXl/s320/img032.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262440556009037890" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-4367810538317333972008-10-28T22:14:00.001-07:002008-10-28T22:14:43.197-07:00Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-56919215301120366782008-10-28T22:07:00.001-07:002008-10-28T22:12:28.278-07:00OKLAHOMA PUNK FLYERS part 2Here's some more flyers from Oklahoma in the Eighties. Hard to believe there was a punk scene there. Even then at the time when it was happening...<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAdO_pur4Xl-QWiIfej8SM3Snow1kzzfZdceWO_hgijHq8knLYYwF3547vOI0Y6KRHxsMAXUa1-3tjQmTckX5Tt-ngb8wdy8hwLage0yTRMfifyblNXTXLV6ytx2OKvuiderazq7J4onWD/s1600-h/img037.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 245px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjAdO_pur4Xl-QWiIfej8SM3Snow1kzzfZdceWO_hgijHq8knLYYwF3547vOI0Y6KRHxsMAXUa1-3tjQmTckX5Tt-ngb8wdy8hwLage0yTRMfifyblNXTXLV6ytx2OKvuiderazq7J4onWD/s320/img037.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262438763744337826" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhADyjE-Pa9Fbjw_syETL0zNhyV-p-v244FdoRmdSI9lNbFyT33sXlqal36XUZ_0RJJPzgI2P-05Hpw4DlXUwv2skOtghtM9K81w1gP9E5Uxh8LfIeSUZ4e3jj165con-jpM0QI036uMI3J/s1600-h/img028.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 244px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhADyjE-Pa9Fbjw_syETL0zNhyV-p-v244FdoRmdSI9lNbFyT33sXlqal36XUZ_0RJJPzgI2P-05Hpw4DlXUwv2skOtghtM9K81w1gP9E5Uxh8LfIeSUZ4e3jj165con-jpM0QI036uMI3J/s320/img028.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262438755337949458" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfizsffT2FzYjifFn75m40-8U3iHoEAt_WgW6NHNzYLvi_MbmXS61NRzM80JBrY_wYZ6FXpykW4_E7BSFfnFCIXJlcqz6Ldr23qqHKOb_TbVRL67qxYu6xzeui0tRiHhDZCXi7s6ed5lRH/s1600-h/img030.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 246px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhfizsffT2FzYjifFn75m40-8U3iHoEAt_WgW6NHNzYLvi_MbmXS61NRzM80JBrY_wYZ6FXpykW4_E7BSFfnFCIXJlcqz6Ldr23qqHKOb_TbVRL67qxYu6xzeui0tRiHhDZCXi7s6ed5lRH/s320/img030.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262438749232742498" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIpgLzNo8r-h6FSTEkTOJA_SRjFXctk4JJt62AY0_tj1yMiKhrSWUe0eovif7n71B_4AbHo4xYaq7J7QJahLIHuovgZl_ORiiaWsfh1LzprcYuVDMPFxyVCkzlOUQ9s9boWRcWqXA3Pfoc/s1600-h/img027.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhIpgLzNo8r-h6FSTEkTOJA_SRjFXctk4JJt62AY0_tj1yMiKhrSWUe0eovif7n71B_4AbHo4xYaq7J7QJahLIHuovgZl_ORiiaWsfh1LzprcYuVDMPFxyVCkzlOUQ9s9boWRcWqXA3Pfoc/s320/img027.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262438747401624946" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSSsvzCXsjQssea4b9dySTkT3pDIrgvsI5HDZYD2MqLKbX4jnb2MeljgCmssSd4MSHIMr-Jo8oBtdiLWGe1wY2gSwvLKfe7umKJ0LIfsq2PZ1rDNI5eCDNJOM6h87WeDauIZcuCeFhvBy0/s1600-h/img029.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiSSsvzCXsjQssea4b9dySTkT3pDIrgvsI5HDZYD2MqLKbX4jnb2MeljgCmssSd4MSHIMr-Jo8oBtdiLWGe1wY2gSwvLKfe7umKJ0LIfsq2PZ1rDNI5eCDNJOM6h87WeDauIZcuCeFhvBy0/s320/img029.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262438740301252738" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-85015156107818392202008-10-28T21:52:00.000-07:002008-10-28T22:05:00.255-07:00AGNOSTIC FRONT interview from 1986<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-E23EvEarMGbc27rdTbjxvPZLUe2jTzMa6zmx2F8it_1g8RvXU0xOaMSx7XZdJaZHCnT7yA2rz1kBjlKnF6cx29LX59OVD42BaBF_Lc7ZKNAlhZcMPM4nGm3Iuj3Fot-Kr802cWU6yqaD/s1600-h/img046.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 243px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj-E23EvEarMGbc27rdTbjxvPZLUe2jTzMa6zmx2F8it_1g8RvXU0xOaMSx7XZdJaZHCnT7yA2rz1kBjlKnF6cx29LX59OVD42BaBF_Lc7ZKNAlhZcMPM4nGm3Iuj3Fot-Kr802cWU6yqaD/s320/img046.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262436632411608482" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">This was done through the mail in the summer of 1986. This ended up in the final issue of Schizo, the zine I was producing while living in Moore, OK. Surprisingly it was a popular zine (and the only zine!) among the student body. Be aware, there were only a couple other punks at this school in 1986. There were a few hanger ons, but for the most part it was jocks, rednecks, and Christians. From what I was hearing, students liked it because the bands and opinions were saying the things they were thinking. Yet, I was still a target of persecution. One girl, can't remember her name, but she bought it, censored it, and handed it to me at lunch, telling me she liked the zine but that it doesn't need all the swearing and to "get right with the Lord". I also know that my zine was more popular than the school newspaper, which angered the journalism teacher. She worked with the principle in stopping the distribution of the zine on school grounds. Through the principal I was told that if I really wanted to write that I should contribute to the school paper. I just saw that as compromising my ideals. Whatever those were! <br />At that time Agnostic Front were one of my favorite bands. I had made my own shirts of them with a marker, as well as writing their name on a painters hat I wore throughout the summer until it became gross and stained beyond anything Shout could take out. All they had out at the moment was their "United Blood" EP and the "Victim In Pain" LP. I remember a friend and I spending many a weekend listening to that album over and over. It just seem to capture what hardcore punk was at the time. At least in my opinion. That album still holds up. The later stuff not so much. But that's the way it goes I imagine. <br /><br />Years later, in 2000, I'm walking around NYC in Chinatown going to lunch, and lo and behold I'm on Mott St. I suddenly think about Agnostic Front, and tried to imagine what this place must have looked like back in the Eighties. There were no skinheads or punks there in 2000. Just tourists and plain people. <br /><br />Who are the members of Agnostic Front, and is there a reason behind choosing the name? </span><br /><br />Rob : Rob Kabula - Bass, Vinnnie Stigma - guitar, Roger - vocals, Gordon - guitar, Joe - drums. Alex (ex C.F.A.) recorded the new album with us, but left to be in a heavy metal band. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Did the band go by any other name before arriving at Agnostic Front?</span> <br /><br />Rob : No, not really. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who started Agnostic Front?</span> <br /><br />Rob : Vinnie Stigma in 1982. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Are there any influences on this world that affect what you write in your songs? </span><br /><br />Rob : Just what happens to us and how we see things that are going on around us. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNIGKmZJs-oUgXN3mKLDYS7tIJ86Qzzc6SMyuO9ybqe6CNlp_15eEVxRCEMnL7e_XJdDJxik8N5s-0vafC-YXCohaOQXHDbcQP6SOufFURLhhhPut90w9HT7lZaYj7YJizpvNPB3X5bjEk/s1600-h/img047.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 243px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjNIGKmZJs-oUgXN3mKLDYS7tIJ86Qzzc6SMyuO9ybqe6CNlp_15eEVxRCEMnL7e_XJdDJxik8N5s-0vafC-YXCohaOQXHDbcQP6SOufFURLhhhPut90w9HT7lZaYj7YJizpvNPB3X5bjEk/s320/img047.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262436627280341970" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your feelings toward Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority?</span><br /><br />Rob : Fuck them. They are the Nazis. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How do you feel about the movie about Sid Vicious that will be coming out sometime? Do you think it should be done?</span> <br /><br />Rob : Yeah, why not. Sid Vicious is dead anyway, but Vinnie Stigma is in the movie. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">How long to you think trendies will try to be part of the scene before moving on to something else? </span><br /><br />Rob : It's happening right now. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Is CBGBs bringing in a lot of good bands now?</span><br /><br />Rob : Yeah, tons of great bands. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who are some of the New York bands you like to do shows with? </span><br /><br />Rob : Murphy's Law, Sheer Terror, Token Entry, Carnivore, Crumbsuckers, Whiplash. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your favorite TV shows? </span><br /><br />Rob : Kung-fu movies on Saturday. Professional wrestling. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Any plans to release a new record soon? </span><br /><br />Rob : Yes. It will be out soon on Combatcore Records. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What are your feelings toward the following : the rich, the government, preppies, jocks, and money? </span><br /><br />Rob : We hate preppies and jock attitude. The government could use some improvement. The rich and money, well, I wish I was in their position. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Any final words you'd like to say? Or would you like to ask us a question about this zine? </span><br /><br />Rob : No questions asked. Agnostic Front will be touring with GBH starting in May through July. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwMbdzoqeftlio8NP7fGZcbPOkZ6edVraQAA1R4RgATOvRK_kdeXBv2wwHa0yfCXwB69otE537A8DdTPBoOfW0jw5syRw_tP_QtXsPIcuhhfMnKEfjmuj6IKLhucIUdUjr9Ig4s5KtHiVx/s1600-h/img048.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 301px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwMbdzoqeftlio8NP7fGZcbPOkZ6edVraQAA1R4RgATOvRK_kdeXBv2wwHa0yfCXwB69otE537A8DdTPBoOfW0jw5syRw_tP_QtXsPIcuhhfMnKEfjmuj6IKLhucIUdUjr9Ig4s5KtHiVx/s320/img048.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262436626976733490" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-63899973373790339442008-10-27T22:00:00.000-07:002008-10-27T22:09:22.887-07:00OKLAHOMA PUNK FLYERS part 1Below are a few flyers from the Oklahoma scene in the Eighties. This batch largely from Tulsa, and Norman. Flemed Lumps on the Stark Raving Mad bill is actually the Flaming Lips. I'll post more flyers from Oklahoma later this week. So stay tuned... <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilsr1DEjTXNI6Pwl7tqZ_XF00lTde2dHZ5vU-h7O8QvsyFVMuImT21uSFfP9GTigDKOs5vqBax88xW9wXiNXuyPeNM3kmoBUitV7VW_j8FgZkdNCfYmW8358nLCmOGrW7g8TrKBTrxS9IH/s1600-h/img025.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 243px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilsr1DEjTXNI6Pwl7tqZ_XF00lTde2dHZ5vU-h7O8QvsyFVMuImT21uSFfP9GTigDKOs5vqBax88xW9wXiNXuyPeNM3kmoBUitV7VW_j8FgZkdNCfYmW8358nLCmOGrW7g8TrKBTrxS9IH/s320/img025.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262066607260185474" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhPxE4esyZxmIjsucjZ1TnNUWhmC3EpLyqN7IS2fVRLoE7T2oLjbQnf2X_2aLPQMBPUgOkOOcLtJWiWFkkqlV2jNxbG02h6JIvrBrjS7jSmgTkOVM9bN-CbyduosVdAc8ionASkSpOVRh_o/s1600-h/img022.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; 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cursor:hand;width: 245px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjW8xnDsYoZlOejy2EKtwwyO8OadKQbCQnNvaL5SqKfs0KobGoT0uvMgoYgl7wlzZK7M8gAxcJOFO-B8Qz5uxyePfn-erKQTl-i4HiKB0Re7SfnFKwUbYBLEbK-Y2XQAp_FUg7aAhjyPLmN/s320/img026+copy.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262066026768560994" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrRfuF4vG0AAou0v4eM5bczKg7dP_33R-DjG7TASaN563gqNZSdeZd_vxrLfbBfEggy-fN7pRt_rC2q-fcPNTDpvLOOxZNPZPGb_DIePnmGk0xswZBkObZe4r2RCctcCONIa7tuYiJaikf/s1600-h/img020.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 247px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgrRfuF4vG0AAou0v4eM5bczKg7dP_33R-DjG7TASaN563gqNZSdeZd_vxrLfbBfEggy-fN7pRt_rC2q-fcPNTDpvLOOxZNPZPGb_DIePnmGk0xswZBkObZe4r2RCctcCONIa7tuYiJaikf/s320/img020.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262066019925785586" /></a><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcq05Bw8sDdNtIKM1fZpQAmdci7JKi8gPUSbnThKghjHY6JHB6DXvhIbjtzZ948FqZ6B_YAZJK4keCm_O2WzOt6IsgE0RLM5ESTgrEvlIScX863N6rInxXiDkLGao74p6R9jqAtom9KMlr/s1600-h/img019.jpg"><img style="cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 241px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhcq05Bw8sDdNtIKM1fZpQAmdci7JKi8gPUSbnThKghjHY6JHB6DXvhIbjtzZ948FqZ6B_YAZJK4keCm_O2WzOt6IsgE0RLM5ESTgrEvlIScX863N6rInxXiDkLGao74p6R9jqAtom9KMlr/s320/img019.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262066009739358018" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-89295560348341776282008-10-27T21:56:00.000-07:002008-10-27T22:00:19.300-07:00DOWN SYNDROME interview<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheW8Xq3mgwO34OZqbv_GYmAZM0kkB-oSFzzo7rJObmiaLTYQ1QS-Gux1sfJeKvCvinoWIONpzHgKmNVvfGY7KmJxBK9cFKULG_KJtu4BpYLB-MGRIjINPGv-C1rhzVRkjsxTdeItQXoYd7/s1600-h/img016.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEheW8Xq3mgwO34OZqbv_GYmAZM0kkB-oSFzzo7rJObmiaLTYQ1QS-Gux1sfJeKvCvinoWIONpzHgKmNVvfGY7KmJxBK9cFKULG_KJtu4BpYLB-MGRIjINPGv-C1rhzVRkjsxTdeItQXoYd7/s320/img016.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262064609129175650" /></a><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Here's one with Down Syndrome, from Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. Another one conducted through the mail. This may have ran in the second to last zine I did in Oklahoma called Schizo. At the time I didn't give it much thought, but for Jan to even take the time to answer five questions was pretty cool. Most bands or people could have told me to fuck off. Maybe these days, but I think back then was very different. This was done in early 1986. I have no idea if they ever released the LP mentioned in the interview. I do have the EP they put out themselves on Black Sun in 1984. The band name had nothing to do with the genetic disorder. Instead, the meaning of their name, as they state in the EP cover fold out, "is derived from the direct definitions of the words in reference to humanity's condition. DOWN - to a lower or worse condition. SYNDROME - a group of signs and symptoms that occur together and characterize a particular abnormality."<br /><br />Who are the members of the band, and how did you get the name?</span> <br /><br />A brief history: Sjor (drums & vocals) and Bob (bass, vocals) coined that troublesome moniker in late '82. After a few short lived guitarists came and went, Laurie and Dave came into it, around May '83. That line-up released the now unavailable "Dark Age" cassette. Then Dave went and Jan came in for guitar and vocals, around May '84, then the EP was released. In the spring of '86 Bob moved out of the house and distances set us so decided we needed a new bass player. In June '86 we began working with Scott, whom we'd known personally for a while and seen in some recent local bands; Fetish, Primitive Ballet, and Ghost Shirt Society. <br /> Eight months down the road, we've done a lot of road 'round these parts (Vancouver, Portland, Winnipeg, etc), are currently working on a demo that is preparation for an LP that we've been longing to do - and which we need to tour. <br /> Our sound has changed a lot since the EP. We play with lots of power and emotion still, but it is a lot less narrow of a genre than the EP's material was in. To me, it sounds much like a hard rocking HC band, with heavy tribal rhythms and jazzier / funkier / pop melodies...<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who writes the songs, and where do you al get the ideas for the songs?</span> <br /><br />Musically, our riffs for one song may be entirely individual, at times riffs are reworked by the band. However, our parts are distinctive and individually created and, for example, Sjor's rhythm will ulitmately affect the result of a riff made by one of the guitarists. It's equal musically. Lyrically, it's left up to the vocalist, either Jan, Scott, or Sjor. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you all think drugs are ruining the scene?</span> <br /><br />Excessive use, habit, and dependance is harmful in whatever "scene" you're in. You wanna get free right? Letting others tell me what to do or don't (like drugs do), ruins my scene! Think for yourself. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjG6yA7DDHn7eCEQRQOqyavcOGHg5UyYOLsulQY7YpV0zNonWvLhNvdQUayEVDBMDwoJjTLMkB_X5KaKsF56U8XKuFdhxJhfKmVPOkvCMK8HbaBGH-V-aOKrZzg-B4A5UR91qidI6zi2yfV/s1600-h/img015.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 316px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjG6yA7DDHn7eCEQRQOqyavcOGHg5UyYOLsulQY7YpV0zNonWvLhNvdQUayEVDBMDwoJjTLMkB_X5KaKsF56U8XKuFdhxJhfKmVPOkvCMK8HbaBGH-V-aOKrZzg-B4A5UR91qidI6zi2yfV/s320/img015.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262064611441925922" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">If you could say anything to the world today what would it be?</span> <br /><br />After thinking about all I could say... (Vivisections is another inhumanity, .... is my favorite beer, Reagan is wrong, unite, etc) I realize it would be just garbage. Give this world a few seconds of silence. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you have anything to say to the people of Oklahoma?</span> <br /><br />How about to the people of Portage La Prairie, Manitoba? That's my home town and I miss it bad, the mess of a hole it was. I love my family there. Hey, Laurie's from there too. I'm playing in a band up in Edmonton. We've got a good crowd, and they're a blast to play for, bands from Oklahoma should see them! We sell some records and T-shirts too. Well, I got to go, kettle's boiling. <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQmiUwXgfqHlnJ2haQQBSLeaKKXCUvnUdwPkNlz2FhY7lvCSPri2OiMLHLVetd5mgh6K-adHoliqKqFcuiFB6sZnbpIvE3wKmF6jYa5tT3eY_WGLo3yD0lbO_xSELkNFasTDmclZcXH7vh/s1600-h/img017.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 231px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiQmiUwXgfqHlnJ2haQQBSLeaKKXCUvnUdwPkNlz2FhY7lvCSPri2OiMLHLVetd5mgh6K-adHoliqKqFcuiFB6sZnbpIvE3wKmF6jYa5tT3eY_WGLo3yD0lbO_xSELkNFasTDmclZcXH7vh/s320/img017.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5262064610581484018" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-80706513239741259842008-06-30T21:35:00.000-07:002008-06-30T21:40:08.619-07:00MARK ANDERSEN interview<span style="font-weight:bold;">This was an interview I had done for my old and defunct zine, Engine. It’s been languishing on a zip disc for about 7 years now. Figured I need to do something with it. So here you go.<br /><br />For those who might not know, Dance Of Days is a book chronicling part of the DC punk scene (largely centered around Dischord) from the early days to when things started getting weird in the early to mid 90s when punk became a strange place that no longer made sense. So it goes...<br /><br />Even though the subject matter of this interview is a book on punk, I think much of what is said can be applied to anyone, whether they have interest in reading this book or not. Ultimately this is a story of someone finding themselves via the channels and doors that punk presents. <br />Interview by Matt Average<br /></span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : What made you want to write Dance Of Days?</span><br /><br />Mark : Well, I came to DC in 1984, and I’d had kind of, already, a punk lifetime if you will, because a lot of people, in their teens or early 20s they were starting to wonder, Is this really for me anymore? By their mid 20s they’re on to something else. I had kind of gone through that. I came to DC actually to go to school, to grad school, and have a career. Instead, I found what I like. So, part of that discovery was, literally, encountering the DC punk scene, and becoming involved with it and learning a little bit about its history. By 1986, right at the tail end of what could be called the Revolution Summer period, it was just apparent to me that it was a great story, and someone should write it down. No one was writing it down, so being a punk, I volunteered. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : What was your first experience with DC punk? </span><br /><br />Mark : Ironically, my very first experience with DC punk is very negative, as I mention it in the book. My first direct encounter with DC punk is seeing Nazi skinhead graffiti on a pay phone across the street from the apartment I moved in to in the DuPont Circle area of DC. And much of my initial impression was very negative. Part of it was I that I had come there knowing some about the DC scene already. I was from Montana, and news of it had already reached Montana, about PMA, and Bad Brains, and straight-edge, and Minor Threat, and all those other bands. Henry Rollins, obviously. I knew of him because of Black Flag. I knew he was from DC, from that scene. So I was kind of shocked to see this kind of fabled scene and how much violence and stupidity and conformity seemed to be running rampant there. Now, the good news was that wasn’t the whole story. As I got involved in helping to set up this group that would become Positive Force, a punk activist collective, I started running into other people who were kindred spirits. Largely from the Dischord crowd, who were preparing for this idea, or this moment called Revolution Summer, and we just became friends and allies. In the process, I learned a lot about the history of the DC scene, and became very inspired by what I saw. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M. Avrg : Is this when you became inspired to write the book? </span><br /><br />Mark : I came up with the idea in ‘86, not terribly long after Embrace broke up. At that point I began to do interviews. By late ‘86 I was doing interviews, I was gathering old flyers, old audio tapes, video tapes, fanzines, any kind of scrap or document that I could find about DC punk I was starting to gather and immerse myself in that. And that immersion went on for about seven years because there was this intense work around researching from ‘86 to ‘93, when I started the rough draft of the book. I took some notes personally as I was doing that, but a lot of things I was at, personally, when I can came back to the book I was relying on tapes and photos, stuff like that. Memory is sometimes really reliable, and sometimes it’s not. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Was it hard not to romanticize the past as you were writing the book? </span><br /><br />Mark : It wasn’t hard for me, I don’t think, because by the time I was writing this town I kind of seen this story... It turned out the story I was trying to writing was part way through a certain cycle. By ‘93 it was starting to complete that cycle, from starting out very small, terribly marginal, and then going into something that was ushered into the mainstream in some sense. As I learned the story it was clear to me that this was the story of human beings, so there was a lot of mistakes, bad choices, and failure. That’s youth. It was really important to me to reflect that, including the mistakes I was making, or that I make in the context of that. To not pull any punches. To be fair and accurate, but also honest, because there’s not point in doing it other wise. I felt, and you might think, Well wouldn’t it be hard? You’re really passionately moved by something. You’re inspired by something, and you see it in a rosy light? Well, by ‘93, ‘94, ‘95, when I’m writing this down, I’m not seeing it in a rosy light. I’m seeing a lot of my own failures, I’m seeing a lot of the failures of other folks. I’m also seeing, of course, the beautiful stuff, the accomplishing, and inspiring stuff. And I would never make a pretense of somehow being objective, if objectivity can exist. We’re all caught within a certain context. Try as we might, we’re biased. And that’s okay, as far as I’m concerned. I think it’s pretty clear to people that I’m pretty open about what my bias might be. I also tried very hard to document stuff and to be fair and accurate to everybody. It’s funny, because some people have critiqued the book saying that it’s too dry. That there’s not enough of the juice, like where’s the passion there? Well, I think it’s a passionate account. But it’s also one that’s trying to be just more than my account, obviously. I have a co-author, and so both our voices have to be represented. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : I find personality comes out in the later years, the later chapters.</span><br /><br />Mark : As you’ll notice the book is set up to be framed by a very personal prologue, which talks about where I am when punk starts to happen, and how it effects me. But also about the ‘60s counter-culture, which is the essential foundation to understand how punk comes about. You really can’t understand punk without understanding the sense of betrayal of the promise of the ‘60s. So that was really important for me to be there, both for me historically, and also for accuracy historically. Then of course, at the very end of the book, I’m back in Montana, and this time I’m writing from the other end of the cycle. All these friend of mine, or acquaintances of mine, or peers of mine, are rock stars. They’re on the covers of magazines, and I’m seeing it from this context where I was this lost lonely teenager. I felt like, and other people may disagree, but I felt like that was a good way to frame things, and to bring in my personal perception, and to be able to ask some questions that maybe Mark (Jenkins) would be uncomfortable asking, because Mark, even though he’s been... I consider Mark Jenkins a punk, and he’s been around since the very beginning of the DC punk scene. He’s a great writer, he knows an awful lot, and he’s very smart. But, he’s a journalist, I’m not a journalist. I guess I am in some sense, but my primary identification is an activist. As a punk, understanding my definition of that, which is maybe not other people’s definition, but it’s mine. So Mark has tried to keep a certain distance, I’m really not interested in distance. I’m willing to participate and get in the thick of things. So, I think we managed to strike a good balance where some of the personal stuff could be shared, but also preserve enough of an objective tone so that it could be both in my voice and Mark’s voice. I think it made for a much stronger book than otherwise. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Going back to what you said about the feeling of betrayal from the ‘60s counter-culture. Do you think there will be something created in the next few years by the people who feel betrayed by the commodification of punk? </span><br /><br />Mark : It’s probably already happening. In some ways it’s already happened. We’ve seen the rise of rave, for example. Parts of the rave, or the hip-hop culture... Who knows what will come out. I don’t know what to predict. I can’t imagine that there won’t be a reaction against it. Although, it’s interesting, because if we look back it seems like cycles were happening more quicker then. There’s the initial rock explosion in the mid 50s, and then it kind of died down by the early ‘60s. Then it kind of explodes again in the mid ‘60s. Then punk comes along and explodes in the mid to late ‘70s. Now, we’re sitting at a point where we’re well into 25 plus years of punk. And you don’t see something connected to rock that is rising that is kind of new. You see a lot of the old things kind of playing themselves out. And obviously, there’s the punk underground that is thriving, and in a sense is already what you’re talking about; it is in rebellion against perceived failures of certain parts of the punk community. It’s an interesting question, and I can’t pretend to have an answer to it. I am certain however that anytime people try a would be revolutionary cultural experiment, counter-cultural experiment, that certain ground is gained, and there’s also certain sense of the promise is not entirely fulfilled, and that provides a foundation for a new movement. And also something that it reacts against. I don’t know if it will come from rock music, or if it will be tied to rock music, because in way, and Mark Jenkins would probably disagree, but to me in some sense, part of what this book is about is arguably a failed effort to prevent rock music from simply turned into a consumer commodity. In a way punk is trying to revive certain romantic ideals around rocknroll, where it’s kind of a street music, the music of the disaffected, of the rebel. You know, Bill Clinton, his campaign song was a rock song. All of our TV advertisement at this point... Who would have believed someone like Iggy Pop’s “Search & Destroy” could be used for a car commercial? It’s an intense song that’s borne of this raw outrage and confusion of the Vietnam War, and the nuclear threat. But it has been. I just saw this terrible ad with David Bowie. I don’t know what David Bowie is up to, but it’s an Absolut ad that takes the Aladin Sane cover graphic and turns that into an ad. There’s this great quote that I quote in the last chapter from Ira Robbins, who was from Trouser Press, which was this really cool magazine, and he says, “Overwhelming economic synergy has rendered absurd the idea that rock still exists in opposition against anything. Above the lowest grass roots level of independents everything is for sale, and nothing is forbidden.” He goes on to say, “It’s obvious any traditional beliefs in rocknroll as a vehicle for social and cultural progress are obsolete.” Rock is so thoroughly part of the mainstream fabric and so thoroughly coopted. That’s why I brought up rave. Because rave in a lot of ways reacts against... It’s not rock music. It’s something entirely different. Who knows. The basic answer to your question is I simply don’t know. But I do believe that anytime people try something idealistic and utopian, which punk in many ways, had a lot of those elements, you’re going to fall short. And the fact you’re falling short will provide, in a weird way, fuel for another endeavor, another utopian endeavor. There are certain elements out there in the rave culture. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Were there any stories you wanted to include in the book...</span><br /><br />Mark : (laughing) That aren’t in there? I’ll answer the question this way, I did a rough draft of this book that is quite boring of the book that exists now. When I did the rough draft I was shocked and horrified of how much of these really extraordinary stories, all these stories that I had to leave out. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Wasn’t it supposed to be on Pressure Drop Press? </span><br /><br />Mark : That’s who I was working with when I was doing the rough draft, Martin Sprouse, from Pressure Drop Press. I would have continued to work with him, but when it was delayed for so long we developed an understanding. My intent was to return to Martin, and when I decided I did want to work on it again, I did talk to Martin and, basically, he was at a place after Tim Yohannon passed away, I kind of got the sense that Martin needed to move on to other things, and let go of Pressure Drop. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Let’s talk about Positive Force. I remember in the late 80s and early 90s it was very visible to the punk scene at large. And then after a while I hadn’t seen anything about it, and I thought it was over. Then in the book, and seeing the literature tonight, I see it’s still happening. </span><br /><br />Mark : Absolutely. Positive Force represents the DC ethic in a lot of ways. At least the DC ethic as I understand it. A lot of people may have a different understanding. But my understanding is, you do the work, and the work is not... you just go get your job done. You make your music, you set up your demonstrations, you get food to hungry mouths. You let your actions speak for themselves. Positive Force continues to do the same things it’s always done. Arguably, there have been big changes in the community, maybe it has led it to being a little less high profile. I never felt like we had a very high profile. I feel like a lot of people know about it largely because of Fugazi, who had such a profound impact. People know because they care about, and have been passionately moved by Fugazi. We’re actually headed toward what I think is a huge step forward for us. Which is a community center in DC. We’ll have a performance space there, an office space, an art gallery there, a library. All sorts of mixing of radical arts and direct service for people in the neighborhood, which is a low income neighborhood. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : How many people are currently involved now? </span><br /><br />Mark : See, it’s hard to know. If we’re talking about meetings, then that’s one level of Positive Force. An average meeting, we meet every Saturday... Our house, which was a communal house was sold and demolished to build a luxury home there. We haven’t gotten into the community center yet. It won’t be ready until early next year. Actually a bunch of our stuff is in storage so we meet at my apartment. At any given meeting there’s half a dozen people there, or two dozen. Who knows. That’s not even a good way to look at Positive Force, because a lot of people who are active in Positive Force don’t necessarily come to meetings regularly. They’re out there supporting us in bands, in other organizations... I have to say, that it’s inspiring me to see that Positive Force, over 16 years after it started, is still seems relevant to people. They keep coming in, doing great stuff. It’s a continual inspiration for me. And that’s personally. There is a transition. Punk is a very transitional community. People come in and they do a lot of stuff, and maybe they move on... <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Are there any people involved who have been around for a while? </span><br /><br />Mark : There are a number of people who have been around for a good period of time, but no one nearly as long as I have. Which is kind of tough. Like I said, I still find it inspiring that it’s an all volunteer group that meets every Saturday afternoon. That’s prime time for leisure activity. It just seems to be motoring along. No guarantees or anything. But I think it’s a testament to the strength of the DC community. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : How could someone start a Positive Force chapter in their town? </span><br /><br />Mark : Well, basically, they certainly don’t need to call it Positive Force. There have been literally a couple of other Positive Force groups in existence. We have the resource material to give based on our experience. The basic thing is very simple, we just want a place where some people can get together and talk about what they’d like to see happen. It’s very simple, but it is revolutionary. One of our early slogans, one of our early ideas was borrowed from Chumbawamba actually, years and years ago in ‘84. In a Maximum Rocknroll interview actually, with Chumbawamba. And they said, “Isolation is the biggest barrier against change.” First and foremost, what Positive Force has strived to do, and we encourage other people to do, is to create space where kindred spirits can spark off each other. The things that are in your head that seem so impossible, when they come out of your mouth into a space of other people who share some of those ideas, suddenly it’s not so impossible at all. And that’s a beautiful thing. Very simple, but very profound. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Going back to the book. There’s a part in there where you say when punk is political or socially aware, is punk at its best.</span><br /><br />Mark : Punk, to me, is about life. It’s a window into a universe of possibilities. Which life is. I don’t think every single song has to have some profound political message. In fact, some of the silly songs are revolutionary in a way, because it’s getting in touch with another possibility in life. I do think that is essential we also ground these things in, some sense, ultimately, in awareness of our social surroundings. Or we’re just not going to be able to achieve our potential of our lives. That’s one of my big personal beliefs; that punk is not a musical style, it is not a hairstyle, or a style of clothing, or tattoos and piercings. These things are a very important part of it. But punk something is way more open ended, and something non-commodifiable. Which is part of what makes it so great. To me, it’s a spirit. No one has to agree with me, it’s just an opinion. A label is a label. What I’m interested in is life. A rich, rewarding, and beautiful life for everybody. Punk is just a word. Life is what I’m about. In the end, life is what really matters. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">M.Avrg : Do you think the underground will be as strong as it was before the labels were being bought out and bands getting signed?</span> <br /><br />Mark : Good question. I think it might be stronger now than it was already. This is a challenge for us. Some of this corporate stuff actually can help the underground. Money comes in, and what do you do with it? I know labels like Epitaph and Lookout, and others, Dischord to some degree, benefitted from this. Sub Pop certainly did. Now, what do we do with those resources once they flow in? That’s a good question, and I can’t answer it. That’s a question for each one of us to ask. That again, is another thing in my book; to bring the questions back to us personally. To be less concerned with this certain figure in punk. Did that person sell out? To ask yourself, Can I sell out? Am I selling out? What does that mean? What is my life meant to be about? Am I being courageous enough to pursue that, or am I copping out? Those are the questions I ask. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">www.positiveforcedc.org</span>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-88966896380670372872008-06-30T21:29:00.000-07:002008-06-30T21:33:14.750-07:00ATROCIOUS MADNESS interviewHere's another old interview I did a long while back. This one originally appeared in U.G.Z. zine from Oakland. I think you can obtain a copy from http://www.wethepunx.com<br /><br />Atrocious Madness are proving to be a prolific band. They have a nice number of releases behind them, as well as ahead of them. Their first LP is now out on Wicked Witch Records, and everyone who’s heard it have nothing but positive things to say about the record. No surprise, they do what they do well. Noisy hardcore punk with some of the most interesting lyrics and song topics out there. Outspoken against animal experimentation, the state, and the like. But they also bring to light secret histories and more reasons why you shouldn’t trust those in power. <br />This interview was conducted over the internet. <br /><br />M.Avrg : When did Atrocious Madness begin? Have you been in bands prior to this? <br /><br />Chanel : Atrocious Madness started a little over 4 years ago when our old guitarist Saira and I decided that we didn't need to learn how to play guitar before we made a band. About two years ago she moved to Germany, then Minneapolis, and we got Hopper to play second guitar.<br />Frank- Saira was in Detestation and Joel, who played drums, was in Axiom at the time and Indignity and Discontent before that. Hopper was in Starved and Delirious, Landfill, and Detestation. We now have Dominic playing drums who was in Yankee Wuss, Detestation, Family Counciling, and New Day. No one else had done anything before.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Do you think the comparison to Confuse is accurate? <br /><br />Frank : Not really. The name definitely implies that we think we do, but I wouldn't listen to us and think of Confuse otherwise. I think we fit into the general noisecore style of Confuse, Acid, Gloom, Gai, Disorder, Chaos UK, State Children, etc... and of course we steal plenty of stuff from all those bands. It seems it's an easy comparison to make, but not entirely accurate. That's just the music side of it though. A lot of people have said that we're different because of our lyrical content. But all those bands had political songs as well.<br /><br />M.Avrg : What do you think a band gains when they throw musical proficiency out the window?<br /><br />Frank : You don't have to be expected to impress anyone with your next 5 minute epic. You don't need to put any pressure on yourself to write a fucking punk song. A couple notes (or one note!), verse, chorus, verse, chorus... there's a song. As long as there is some energy behind it... It makes having fun playing music a lot easier rather than concentrating on what you are doing. Of course I don't actually know how to do much on any instruments, so maybe it is a lot of fun playing complicated songs. Rush sure liked it.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Many of your lyrics seem to be based in conspiracy theories and secret histories. Is this a fair assessment?<br /><br />Frank : Yeah, a lot of them are about what people consider conspiracies. But that's just a way of not taking them seriously. All the songs we have that deal with those topics considered on the fringe are things that are actually happening or have happened. The HAARP project really does exist and is capable and being used for things like weather control, and mind control. The official HAARP propaganda even admits that it could be used for that, but of course says they never would. And people believing what the government tells them is the really scary thing. Everyone knows about CIA mind control experiments on unknowing victims and it is public knowledge, if you look for it, that Nazi scientist were brought to the U.S., Russia and Britain and were behind the creation of the CIA, NASA, training of South American death squads, and mind control "cults" like Jim Jones's Peoples Temple. They are only theories because they aren't accepted by mainstream media machines which use terms like "conspiracy theory" to push facts and ideas into the realm of laughable nuts. Shows like the X-Files help to defuse information that comes to light by letting people think of it as "that stuff on TV". Just like accusing someone who says that fluoride in the water is being used to weaken the minds and bodies of the population as being paranoid and right wing. Secret history is more accurate. The connections between corporations, political dynasties, banks, intelligence agencies, "think tanks"(Tavistock Institute, Rand Corporation, Club of Rome, Committee of 300), gatherings like the WTO, and G-8 and secret societies are not something that those involved want to be known. All media surrounding wars and terrorism, including what is happening now, is meant as diversion from what is really happening and who is really pulling the strings behind world events. Who is gaining from the attacks on the World Trade Center/Pentagon and these Anthrax mailings? If you think that these "civilized" governments wouldn't murder thousands of innocent people, take another look at the history of British and US imperialism and it's dealing with "undesirables" in their own countries. But not all of our lyrics could be placed in the "conspiracy" box. True, we sing about these things, but that should not be considered some gimmick, which takes away from the fact these are serious topics. And we also cover what the usual political punk territory: animal rights, environmentalism, sexism, homophobia, religion... things just as important and relevant as anything else we sing about.<br /><br />M.Avrg : What is HAARP? <br /><br />Frank : HAARP stands for High frequency Active Auroral Research Project and is located in the remote area of Alaska in the Gakona region, owned by the Department of Defense. It's basically a huge antenna array and research facility tucked away where it can operate in almost secrecy. What the government/military claims is that it is to be used to study the upper atmosphere and communicate with submerged submarines that could not otherwise be reached. It is a joint Navy, Air Force operation with academic support from the University of Alaska. The official HAARP website, maintained by the Air Force, has a long list of further uses (oceanic mapping, finding hidden bunkers and underground cave systems, which is of course very useful propaganda nowadays etc...) and goes on and on about what a safe and wonderful tool it is in predicting weather patterns. What they don't say, and even deny, is that it can be used to alter the weather in specific areas by "lifting", or punching holes in portions of the Ionosphere in order to create heat waves, floods, snow fall etc... This not only effects the specific area targeted but creates a reaction in world weather systems. The facility uses electro magnetic waves which disrupt the magnetosphere causing confusion in migratory animals whose natural guidance systems are effected, either causing them not to migrate, migrate in the wrong direction, and in the case of a number of native Alaskan wild life, to wander straight into the antenna array. The more frightening uses that are not mentioned in the official propaganda are those that are actually claimed in the original patent. Not actually the original, because the designs used for this type of radio transmitter were created by Nikola Tesla. A lot of his patents were stolen after his death by intelligence agencies or simply refused by the patenting office and confiscated. But some of the other possible uses are a land bases Star Wars type defense shield, destruction of satellites, altering the weather for military and civil disobedience purposes, negatively impact the health of human and other biological systems (including inducing heart attacks), taking control of air craft guidance or melting engines, altering the mental state of large groups or singular people, and if implanted with a receiving chip, actual physical control. The list goes on and on and the science and secret history behind the development and uses could fill a book. Actually there are a number of books on the subject and plenty of places on the internet.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Do you know if the government has actually experimented on populations with HAARP?<br /><br />Frank : Definitely. This type of technology has been used in different capacities since World War I when John Hettinger modified beam power weapons to radio wave power weapons. Sounds ridiculous, like something out of a sci-fi film. But who do you think controls the film studios? The banking/military cartel who produce books and films as a way to defuse and make unbelievable secret science and conspiracy theories. During the 80's the Greenham Commons Women Peace Camp in England, who held a constant vigil outside the Greenham military base to protest the placement of U.S. cruise missiles there, were subject to radio frequencies emitted from the base that caused headaches, nausea and constant menstruation. The USSR used something called "The Russian Woodpecker" to bombard the eastern United States with radio waves that caused an increase in suicides and murder during the times it was turned on. Similarly was the use of these signals to cause disruption in the mental state of employees at the U.S. embassy in Moscow. The Montauk facility on Long Island was home to some of the most horrific human experiments on U.S. soil. Including the mental torture of homeless and kidnapped victims via low frequency radio waves and "shock rooms" in a sort of MK Ultra mind control experiment and creation of split personalities. The Montauk base would also aim their antenna at New Jersey, New York and even at the housing units on it's own grounds which resulted in the same effects as the Russian Woodpecker. During the WTO protests there were reports of people being effected by the same symptoms as the Greenham Peace Camp women. There are people who have mapped out storms and strange weather patterns that coincide with when the HAARP facility was activated at the frequency needed to cause such things. The school shootings over the past few years can also be connected to HAARP being active on the frequency to control human emotions and thought. But a moveable radar dish is no longer needed to transmit. They are simply bouncing signals off the upper atmosphere, using it as a mirror, to directly hit a target. Now I have read some reports of transmitters being reduced to hand held targeting devices for used in civil unrest (WTO, Genoa...) to incapacitate protesters. Most recently is the under reported link between the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks and the fact that HAARP went online to satellite communication frequency moments after the planes were in the air. This is also the frequency used to take control of a vehicles guidance system, which has been a useable technology, as admitted by the government, so who knows how long it's really been<br />available, since the late Eighties.<br /><br />M.Avrg : In the song “Terror Technology of The Conspiracy” you mention something called E.L.F. waves. What are they, and how are they used in mind control? <br /><br />Frank : E.L.F. waves are Extreme Low Frequency waves and were being researched during World War II by the RCA company to aid in the communication with submarines and a way to avoid disruption from naturally occurring electro magnetic pulses in the atmosphere. The EMP's are now being artificially produced to cause earthquakes, destroy communication systems and disrupt vehicle engines. It is the same thing that happens when a nuclear missile would enter the atmosphere. But, with the ELF waves, they soon discovered the negative side effects of there use. Which to the military means positive side effects. One frequency on this wavelength is the same as that which human thought travels on. Again, this is not science fiction. The human body and mind produce electrical charges which translate into electronic waves. Emotional and mental derangement were noted in the early test subjects exposed to ELF waves. Alone they cannot actually cause physical control without an implant of some sort. And they cannot be aimed to pinpoint specific people from long distances. Whatever is sending the signal needs to be ground based. Which is where the hand held devices come in as use in effecting small groups in a riot situation. The main use of mind control is the injecting of thoughts or emotions into someone's head. Even to the point of "hearing voices". This is usually detectable by a constant humming sound. Like those emitted from electricity boxes.<br /><br />M.Avrg : When you say implant (in reference to answer about ELF), are you saying that something physically has to be implanted in the subject? <br /><br />Frank : Yes. It doesn't have to be something incredibly sophisticated though. <br />In 1965, Dr. Jose Delgado of the Yale School of Medicine (and funded by the Office of Naval Intelligence, U.S. Air Force 6571st Aeromedical Research Laboratory and also linked to Spanish Fascist groups) had a working "stimoceiver" that received a radio signal, implanted into animals, specifically a bull, that could force them to stop on command. His work was actually an extension of the research done by Walter Rudolph Hess, who is acknowledged as the first person to conduct experiments into direct brain cell stimulation by inserting wires into the brains of cats. This was almost 40 years ago, just think how much has progressed since then. And look at what is being put into animals now! Implants that will monitor the location of pets. This has been happening in animal shelters for years and people are now willing to accept the next step, which is the tagging of their children and criminals. Delgado was able to prove that a radio signal via an implant in the brain could override natural motor function and eliminate the freedom of movement in an individual. The army has been implanting soldiers for at least 30 years. Just ask some notorious government patsies like Timothy McVey or Lee Harvey Oswald. Whoops, he's dead. There are many, many documented cases of people having implants removed that they have no recollection of how they got them. Just wonder what some doctors and dentists are up to, even outside the military. This last year a news story was released that there are now available computer chips that are so tiny over a hundred could be inserted using an average size syringe. So how long has this technology really been available?! And what the fuck is really in those flu and anthrax vaccinations?<br /><br />M.Avrg : The song “Inquisition” brings attention to the money driven pharmaceutical industry. What’s your opinion on people in the Bush cabinet having connections to drug companies, and the recent “anthrax scare”? <br /><br />Frank : I don't think that it will ever be admitted that entities inside the U.S. government (who are just puppets to the same masters as governments all over the world) were behind the spreading of anthrax. The way things are looking though, it seems someone is going to have to admit that it was manufactured in this country. I think this goes way beyond George Bush part 2, his cabinet members and his business interests. Of course they are the ones to gain from a massive rush on any vaccines, which are only made by two companies in the world, one of them only for military use, and both of them with stock held by Bush 1 and 2 and friends, but I think this is more a case of keeping us in a state of fear. Where the hell have all these anthrax attacks gone? I haven't heard anything for a while. Keeping populations in a state of constant, underlying panic about what will happen next, and looking to world governments to save us from these threats, that is what I think the real motivations are.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Staying on the subject of the song, “Inquisition”, part of the story is about Dr. Wilhelm Reich, and the harassment he dealt with at the hands of the FDA. What threat did he pose to them?<br /><br />Frank : I'm not a totally familiar with a lot of Wilhelm Reich’s work and don't know all about his research. But that song is mainly using him as an example of the lengths that the FDA and governments will go to to keep the money coming in and crush any science or health methods that might put more control over ourselves in our hands. Basically he was claiming to have an invention, the orgone accumulator (later the subject of a great Hawkwind song), that could cure all sorts of ailments, including cancer. He was also a strong proponent of homeopathic medicine and often wrote about sexual repression creating the urge to live under a tyrannical ruler and in a restrictive society, which creates a continuous cycle of repression. This was in the 50's and was definitely not what mainstream science and psychology was promoting. During one of his tests with the orgone box, a group of assistants placed a tiny piece of plutonium inside which exploded, giving cancer to all those who were present. It was then that he realized that radiation could give people cancer, which wasn't being let on by the Atomic Energy Commission and which I'm sure they wanted kept quite. It seems pretty clear that after years of harassment and working on the fringes of science that he started to lose his mind. He built a Tesla lighting ball generator and drove around with it threatening to blast various government types unless the public was informed of the dangers of radiation and atomic energy. So it was more than just the FDA, but of course the same people who have control of the drug companies control power and weapons manufacturing, so...<br /><br />M.Avrg : In what ways was he harassed? <br /><br />Frank : At first I think it was just cutting him off from the rest of the scientific community by making him seem like a nut case. Later though it became the seizing of his research, raiding his experimental lab and destroying his equipment and burning of his papers. In the end, garbage trucks full of his published books were hauled off and burned and he was put in jail, although I'm not sure on what charges, where he died of a heart attack. Before he died he was having his lawyer smuggle out letters to his wife where he claimed he was being denied his medication, forced to take a strange pill and that he was being murdered. Induced heart attacks and fast acting cancer are two of the ways the Feds get rid of unwanted people without arousing much suspicion.<br /><br />M.Avrg : What is orgone? What do you know about the machine he built, the orgone accumulator? <br /><br />Frank : This is where I'm a bit fuzzy with the information. As far as I know, Orgone is the energy emitted from all matter. The Orgone Accumulator was a sort of large box covered inside and out with decaying plant matter, that if you sat in would revitalize you. Because he was demonized, he has become another figure in conspiracy lore and the center of a lot of controversy. There has grown a small community of people who still study his work. Actually, there is a doctor named James De Meo who received his masters degree conducting experiments that proved some of Reich’s weather research and has lists of other doctors who have been able to confirm other aspects of his work. The Orgonomics Institute that Reich started is still around today. Somehow I got on their mailing list too. I get all kinds of brochures telling me how to make an orgone blanket and invitations to their yearly seminars.<br /><br />M.Avrg : In the piece following the lyrics to “Sadistic Dreams” you say that NutraSweet “causes mood alterations, depression, and erodes short term memory and intelligence.” Could you give us more information on this? <br /><br />Frank : What causes the effects is actually aspartame, which is one of the ingredients in NutraSweet. In addition to those listed above, it also causes brain lesions, headaches, mood alterations, skin polyps, blindness, brain tumors, and insomnia. Obviously not from one dose, it is an accumulative thing, much the same as fluoride. Aspartame is officially classed as a food additive, so adverse reactions are not required to be reported to any federal agencies (not that their say means anything) nor is it required to have any safety monitoring as it would if it were classified as a drug. It was once listed by the Pentagon as part of it's inventory of biochemical weapons that could be used to poison an enemy population. The current patent holder is the infamous Monsanto Corp. known mainly for it's push towards genetically engineered food and crops and it's patenting of seed varieties in order to eliminate farming competition. They are under control of the I.G. Farben company who were the main funder of Hitler’s regime and one of the suppliers of Zyklom B, the gas used in the death camps. NutraSweet made its way to market under the guide of the G.D. Searle company (whose chairman ,W.L. Searle was an officer in the Army Chemical Corps in the 50s when they were testing LSD on unwitting human subjects in conjunction with the CIA) who bribed researchers and investigators and faked lab tests in order to get FDA approval and beat any other artificial sweeteners coming up. In fact, it's main competition was saccharine, found to cause cancer. Pepsi was the first company to use NutraSweet in their products and was one of the funders behind the research that buried saccharine. Once ingested, aspartame breaks down into amino acids and methanol, which degrades into formaldehyde. Numerous groups have tried to halt production and usage of aspartame but are always crushed by the multinational pharmaceutical and soda giants in control. Probably also backed by the same people in government forcing fluoride into our water supply since a lot of speculation points to this being part of a massive destroying of the health and immune systems of the population and dumbing down of our minds.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Do you believe the world will end up like you predict in the song “Give Warning To the World”? Also, is this title taken from the John Brunner book? <br /><br />Frank : Yeah, it is definitely from a John Brunner book! No one has caught that yet. The song actually has nothing to do with the book, I just though it was a cool title. I do actually think that is where we are headed. Governments have been secretly testing chemical and biological weapons on populations for decades. As well as the UN, NATO, and US military practicing tactics of urban control and warfare in "third world" countries in preparation for "homeland security". Actually John Brunner wrote another book called "The Sheep Look Up" which has some of these types of scenarios in it.<br /><br />M.Avrg : In an e-mail you once told me of some current activity in the Antarctic that concerns cover ups going on there. You also mentioned it has been Nazi territory since World War 2. Please give me more information.<br /><br />Frank : That's actually something I'm interested in and not really related to the band. What I was talking about was an Antarctic research team that had uncovered something that started making them all sick and some of them died. <br />The entire thing was really hushed up pretty quickly, but one scientist refused to be evacuated even though he was dying and felt he needed to continue the research. Sounds like the movie "The Thing" and some HP Lovecraft stories, which is what was interesting. Especially since Lovecraft’s father was a 33rd degree Egyptian Freemason and supposedly imparted all manner of knowledge and secret history to him before he died. Who knows... But the Nazi part refers to Hitler’s belief in a hollow Earth and that the main entrances were at the poles. All through the war, and especially near the end, Hitler was sending U-boats to the Antarctic region to set up a base and stash their looted goods and religious relics collected by Nazi archeologists around the world. Apparently Antarctica was originally claimed by Nazi Germany and there is still a base there somewhere. This obviously contradicts explorations that have occurred and seems quite improbable. But who knows! Most reports of polar openings have to do with tropical areas around the poles that lead into the hollow earth. Admiral Richard Bird, who made a number of ground breaking polar expeditions claims to have flown into each polar opening and is reported to have led a US Air Force group to the south pole in an attempt to oust the remaining Nazis. Sounds pretty heavy huh? This is speculation based on facts, but is quite interesting nonetheless. Again this is mainly an interest to me and not the band. There are a lot of books written on this subject, and if anyone is interested you should check out "Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival" by Joscelyn Godwin.<br /><br />M.Avrg : What are the five most important books you ever read?<br /><br />Frank : Fuck, I don't know... The books that were important to me aren't necessarily my favorites and some are only important because they led me to other things. Ok... "and the truth shall set you free..." David Icke, "Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre" HP Lovecraft (the first Lovecraft I ever bought), "The Dispossessed" Ursula K. LeGuin (probably the best book you will ever read about anarchist theory and what it would be like to live in that type of society... and it's a sci-fi book!), "Illuminatus Trilogy" (and related books) Robert Anton Wilson, and all early William Gibson stuff.... Most of those don't really seem important now that I think about it...<br /><br />M.Avrg : Okay, we’ve been talking mainly about secret histories, which are heavy subjects. Switching gears, what do you do for mindless fun? <br /><br />Frank : I collect stuff: punk records, anything related to Iron Maiden/Hawkind/Discharge or Antisect, books, H P Lovecraft shit, X-Files cards.... I'm kind of a geek... I like to read a lot, put out records, put out zines. Other members take care of all the drinking.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Is there anything you want to say about the upcoming LP?<br /><br />Frank : Thirteen songs of raw and noisy punk. I'm not sure how well it will be like by people who were interested in our other shit because it is really fucked up sounding. It took us all of 45 minutes to finish, if that gives you any idea.<br /><br />M.Avrg : Final comments? <br /><br />Frank : Of course thanks for the interview! There isn't always a lot of space to fit in everything related to each question and I'm sure a lot of shit slipped my mind. Feel free to write about anything discussed here or for lyrics, records, shirts etc... Cheers!Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-52502328815556920272008-03-26T22:29:00.001-07:002008-10-27T21:53:01.172-07:00DEATH PUPPY interview from July 1985This was the VERY FIRST interview I ever did. DEATH PUPPY, along with N.O.T.A. were a pretty big deal for my friends and I. I think part of the appeal of DEATH PUPPY for us was because they were teenagers as well, skated, etc. And they were an active band. I still have their demo tape, and played it heavily in the summer of 1985. Some label called Sound Company put out a 2 song seven inch of DEATH PUPPY in the early 90s. The two songs were from their demo, "Dress For Suckcess", and "I Skate". <br /><br />Before DEATH PUPPY, they were called DIET OF WORMS, who had two songs on the "Brain Of Stone" compilation cassette from BCT (some other bands on this comp were RAZOR BLADES, ACCUSED, POWER OF THE SPOKEN WORD, YOUTH KORPS, and VICIOUS CIRCLE - worth seeking out!). After DEATH PUPPY split up, three of the members, Mark, Richie, and Jason started FACE FIRST, with Darren Mock on bass (who would later go on to play in VERBAL ASSAULT). Mark would later go on to play in KILL WHITEY. No idea what any of them are up to these days. If anyone knows, I'd be interested to find out. <br /><br />I think this ran in the fourth or fifth issue of False Pseudo. My first attempt was over the phone, and totally naive to it all, I tried to write everything down they were saying, then Mark suggested I send the questions through the mail and do it that way. Lo and behold... <br /><br />Mark answered all the questions and pretty much "spoke for" the rest of the band using their names. <br /><br />Who are the members of DEATH PUPPY and where did you get the name?<br /><br />Mark : Starring in alphabetical order; Scott (future Dunkin' Donuts employee) Burnett - bass, Jason (cross my legs and pound the floor) Hadley - skins, Writchee (mammoth dick) Knapp - and Mark (where the buffalo rome) Smirl - cranking out the twin axe attack, and last but not least, Todd (born to be a little crazy at times) Willige - rounds out the outfit with his impressive crooning. <br />And as far as the name goes; "Hey, what's in a name any how?"<br /><br />Who writes the songs, and where do you get the ideas for them?<br /><br />Writshee : I write the songs that make the whole world sing. <br />Mark : I write the songs of love and special things. <br />Todd : I write the songs that make the young girls cry. <br />Jason : I write the songs. <br />Scott : I write the songs. <br /><br />What kind of responses do you all get at gigs? <br /><br />All: Well breasted women throw their half naked bodies across the stage screaming in rapturous howls of ecstasy. <br /><br />Do you have any plans to record another tape soon? <br /><br />Mark : Yes, we have a greatest hits LP in the works. No, but seriously, we're too busy trying to get Jason home from Europe. You see, he's been a victim of a tragic hijacking incident. The terrorists claim they will kill the hostages if their demands are not met. And we're just worried sick and 'sides that, we don't have enough material anyhow. <br /><br />In your opinion, what do you think the "scene" is like here in Oklahoma? <br /><br />Mark : Look, the scene is what we make it. Now I know that sounds like I'm trying to avoid the question, but that's exactly what I'm doing. The scene will work for us if we work for it. But I will say this, there's a lot of senselss nit picking and name calling, of which I'm guilty of too, but there's no excuse or reason for this. So unite people! Let's cooperate for the good of us all (yeah I listen to 7 Seconds, so what!).<br /><br />Final question, where can people get your tape at? <br /><br />Mark : Well, forget about skipping down to the local Record Bar 'cause it aint there. But if all you boys and girls wanna lay your hands on this master piece of recording artistry, just write me, Mark'o at **** Downing Ct, Edmond, OK 73034, and send 3 bucks in American currency only. In case you have a phobia against sending cash through the mail, then make checks or money orders out to me. Well, what are you waiting for?!!? Thanks.<br clear="all" />Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-17475794732274032902008-03-22T21:53:00.000-07:002008-03-26T21:19:12.560-07:00PSYCHO interview from September 1985My memory is a little fuzzy on this one... I think this was for an issue of False Pseudo that never happened. So I might have used it in the second zine I started, called Schizo, which lasted for about 2 issues (culminating with interviews with the Meat Puppets and Face First - which will appear much later if I can find the cassette tapes!). <br /><br />Another mail interview. This time with Psycho, who put out a slew of vinyl from the 80s well into the 90s. I first became aware of them through Unclean Records (Sand Springs, OK).<br /><br />I forgot all about the term "trendies" until I started typing this out. I can laugh about it now. <br /><br />I did see these guys live eventually. They shared a bill with Rorschach at Gilman in Berkeley, summer of 1993. <br /><br />Without further ado....<br /><br />Questions were answered by Johnny X. <br /><br />Who are the members of Psycho, and how long have you all been together? <br /><br />Johnny : Johnny X - guitar, vocals, Bill Norman - bass, Mega - vocals, Charlie Infection - drums. <br />This line up has been together since November 1984. The original line up (John & Bill) plus 2 former members formed in October 1981, In our four years together we have played over 100 shows and toured the east coast and the midwest. <br /><br />Who writes the songs?<br /><br />Johnny : We all write the songs, but Bill Normal and I have written most of the current songs we use in our live set. <br /><br />I understand you all did a tour not too long ago. Could you tell us how the tour went? <br /><br />Johnny : It went great. We played Green Bay, Chicago, Detroit, Allentown, PA, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and Morgantown, West Virginia. It was a very successful tour. <br /><br />What kind of reactions from the audience do you get at the gigs? <br /><br />Johnny : We get really good responses from just about all our shows. We get a better response at all ages shows naturally, but even over 20 shows we play go over really well. We seem to play the best shows in Boston, Philadelphia, and Rhode Island. <br /><br />Is there any violence at your concerts? If so, have you ever had to stop playing the concert because the violence was real bad? <br /><br />Johnny : Well, only a few times have we had to stop playing because of the cops. In Boston, we got threatened with arrest if we didn't turn our volume down. In Harrisburg, PA, the cops just walked in and stopped the show. It was ridiculous. Most of our shows have been real cool on the whole. We've played over 100 shows and only a few have been trouble. <br /><br />What is the scene like in Boston? Are there a lot of "trendies" in the scene? <br /><br />Johnny : Yes there are a lot of trendies in the scene, The scene here is really good. There are a lot of shows and the crowds are not violent for the most part. Sometimes, there is a little trouble, but most of the shows are really without problems. I like Boston a lot. <br /><br />Are there any really great local bands in Boston that are their way to underground success? <br /><br />Johnny : Yes, Boston has many great underground bands; Psycho, the Freeze, Gang Green, FU's, Cancerous Growth, PTL Klub, Salem 66, the Odds, and First Strike. <br /><br />Do you have any plans to tour soon? <br /><br />Johnny : Well, we constantly tour the east coast on weekends all year long. Next summer we will do a two week tour that could lead us to Florida or the west coast. <br /><br />Are you getting ready to release an album or EP soon? Or are you going to take a long break? <br /><br />Johnny : We will have a new 6 song EP released on Unclean Records of Oklahoma sometime in September 1985. We are already at work on our next project which could be a full album. We are weighing a few different offers right now. We will also be on the next Mystic "Party" album Volume 3m and the "Best of" BCT album. <br /><br />Do you have any jobs besides the band? <br /><br />Johnny : Yes, we all work day jobs. Bill is a furniture salesman, Mega works in an ice-cream store, Charlie is an auto parts warehouse foreman, and I am a supervisor in a vitamin mailorder factory. <br /><br />Any closing comments? Also, is there an address for people to write you all at? <br /><br />Johnny : Yes, thanks to Matt for this cool interview. We have a 12 song cassette available for $3.50 (Zany Adventures) and T-shirts (medium or large) for $6.00 ppd. Send a stamp for stickers and info. Send all mail to: Psycho c/o John Wolfe, PO Box (doubtful still current 23 years later!), Kendall Square, Cambridge MA 02142.Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-26571662027317396712008-03-22T16:30:00.000-07:002008-11-11T21:58:19.987-08:00N.O.T.A. interview from 1985<span style="font-weight:bold;"><br />Here's another stellar mail interview for a zine I did called False Pseudo. FP was the first zine I started, at the age of 16. It started off as just a zine full of opinions on music, the town I lived in, some music news (culled from Flipside, Okie zines, and whatever they said on "Fear Of Music" and "My Tunnel" (radio shows on KGOU) at the time), and comic strips about fighting jocks, rednecks, and metalhead. Very much a product of its environment and times. Surprisingly, despite there being no punks at my school, I had a few subscribers. This zine never made it out of Oklahoma, and maybe had 10 copies of each issue printed at the time. <br /><br />The issue that the N.O.T.A. interview ran in caused a bit of a stir for the printing company I took it to. This was while I was still living in Moore, and across the street from the main post office was a print shop that offered cheap copies (opposed to the 10 cents a copy I was paying at the library!). I dropped the master copy off there and started my lunch time fasts to raise money for the printing. A couple days later I get yanked out of school, my mom is enraged and saying some shit like, "I can't believe my own flesh and blood would do this to me.." <br /><br />The copy shop read over my zine and decided they did not want to print it because it was "against God, disrespectful of authority, and pornographic." I remember walking into the shop and the owner is pissed off. He threw the masters my way and told me he never wanted to see me in his establishment again, and told my mom she needs to do a better job of raising me. And some shit about how he should call the police on me. Whatever... <br /><br />The only pornographic thing was the ad for the A.S.F. "A Sure Fuck" EP and shirt which has a man with an erection and three spurts that have A.S.F. written in them. Then there were drawings of cop cars on fire, "I hate all cops" written in the borders, and shit like that. Not to mention stories about fighting rednecks and jocks and my complete disdain for Oklahoma in 1985. My mom gets home and reads it. "I can't believe such filth is in my house! What kind of son have I raised?!? I don't even know you anymore!" She then starts ripping the master pages up. From that day forward all my zine activity was completely hidden from view and never mentioned around my family ever again. I think I made about 5 copies at most of this one. They were all sold at Starship Records in Tulsa, OK. <br /><br />N.O.T.A. were, and still are, a favorite band of mine. The fact that a band that awesome could come out of Oklahoma was something in itself. It actually gave one hope. The majority of the world thought we were all a bunch of assbackward people and living out in the sticks (I have letters from bands asking if we had running water and indoor plumbing in 1985, and if we have much trouble with the Indians!). So, in some way bands like N.O.T.A. were de facto ambassadors of the state. <br /><br />"TOY SOLDIERS" EP COVER. RELEASED ON RABID CAT RECORDS. </span><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7BTQstAFVfrXX70-YR8FJ5jlVtRo2GQR5MpBVfwt3tPe38fn-sXR0n-QrTfLSoUDyPzChoM6d03VBfJYeemFLygCpoGOVpahWhyphenhyphencioZZOylPSyVUXXhXIEA-Q2zVY0_y_KfOTApuSFCUB/s1600-h/toysoldierscover.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 319px; height: 320px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi7BTQstAFVfrXX70-YR8FJ5jlVtRo2GQR5MpBVfwt3tPe38fn-sXR0n-QrTfLSoUDyPzChoM6d03VBfJYeemFLygCpoGOVpahWhyphenhyphencioZZOylPSyVUXXhXIEA-Q2zVY0_y_KfOTApuSFCUB/s320/toysoldierscover.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267644572648570098" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who are the members of N.O.T.A., and how long have you all been playing together? </span><br /><br />Jeff - N.O.T.A. is Jeff (me) - vocals, Bruce - bass, Russell- guitar, Bob - drums. We've been together since April 1980. Russell joined in June 1982.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Who writes the songs and where did you get the ideas for them?</span> <br /><br />Jeff - Russell and I write the bulk of the songs, but everyone contributes and Bob and Bruce have both written lyrics. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">"TOY SOLDIERS" EP LYRIC SHEET</span> <br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXj1qRPjm6LJCC7Ndro-05IUK7YMPCoyG_L7YbO_kXT7Gsth50ilD1siDTNFs89M7OsRHdGNW5V0-ytQz69vIgqxryC4G_7tqBrDZ8W_2kp8_8znfRHti1Tt5cL0NwSRPQMz6z_X8-DLmz/s1600-h/toysoldierslyricsheet.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 203px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgXj1qRPjm6LJCC7Ndro-05IUK7YMPCoyG_L7YbO_kXT7Gsth50ilD1siDTNFs89M7OsRHdGNW5V0-ytQz69vIgqxryC4G_7tqBrDZ8W_2kp8_8znfRHti1Tt5cL0NwSRPQMz6z_X8-DLmz/s320/toysoldierslyricsheet.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267644579214372434" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What is the name of the new album and when will it be released to the public? </span><br /><br />Jeff - It doesn't have a name, just N.O.T.A., and it should be out around September 15. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Do you have any tour plans for the album?</span><br /><br />Jeff - Yes, we're planning a tour of all points east of the Mississippi starting around October 1. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">What do you think about bands such as Suicidal Tendencies putting videos on Mtv? </span><br /><br />Jeff - I think it's great! Otherwise that channel is a total piece of shit. Let there be more. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">In your opinion, what do you think of the scene in Oklahoma?</span> <br /><br />Jeff - I wish it was more steady and contained fewer "tribes". We need to have a scene first then we can all find shit to fight about. <br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Is there anything you would like to say to the people of Oklahoma, and where can people write to you?</span> <br /><br />People can write us at PO Box (invalid at this point I'm sure), Tulsa, OK 74157. Anyone that's been around already knows us so I guess there aint much to say except COME OUT TO THE SHOWS AND SUPPORT THE SCENE YOU MAGGOTS!!!<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">"MOSCOW" EP COVER. RELEASED ON UNCLEAN RECORDS. </span><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilJFaPpyAIPTtsTP69hhC4YfseDbiYwPJZ8CbBEUB_SFQKQnwELFYcNfuZ8kvLwmCdmbXg8X9X115lyjuttffbFIBOow1lk8uHWJsDOtG07X3J8MV6XZFzGI64v0Theva_lzvXjZZdU6bU/s1600-h/notamoscowfrontcover.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 310px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilJFaPpyAIPTtsTP69hhC4YfseDbiYwPJZ8CbBEUB_SFQKQnwELFYcNfuZ8kvLwmCdmbXg8X9X115lyjuttffbFIBOow1lk8uHWJsDOtG07X3J8MV6XZFzGI64v0Theva_lzvXjZZdU6bU/s320/notamoscowfrontcover.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267644587407126546" /></a><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">THIS IS THE FIRST PRESS BACK COVER OF THEIR "MOSCOW" EP. THE FRONT COVER IMAGE IS THE SAME ON THE SECOND PRESS. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE ON THE FRONT COVER OF THE FIRST PRESS AND SECOND PRESS, IS THE MARGINS ARE THINNER ON THE SECOND PRESS. ALSO THE FIRST PRESS IS ON NON-GLOSSY PAPER, WHEREAS THE SECOND PRESS COVER IS PRINTED ON GLOSSY! </span><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhll9vDGBXqOQb0TL6EHQwTWjthnzt8EkgOFhDQKPPY2A9g6jim6ltdLDgtMQNIBo8xwJHHnykksUiLuUAyH3OBqC2nFz2nuPYB_Qb6SuK42RHqRj8TEzonNl0KxujU8L3pS7dVDN3CZFbn/s1600-h/firstpressbackcover.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 310px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhll9vDGBXqOQb0TL6EHQwTWjthnzt8EkgOFhDQKPPY2A9g6jim6ltdLDgtMQNIBo8xwJHHnykksUiLuUAyH3OBqC2nFz2nuPYB_Qb6SuK42RHqRj8TEzonNl0KxujU8L3pS7dVDN3CZFbn/s320/firstpressbackcover.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267644599382037506" /></a><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">THIS IS THE BACK COVER OF THE SECOND PRESS OF "MOSCOW".</span><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7UKzelmVZDY578qd2cUwbKrn7R3KGsJzH5mFerLbAEckr5vvL8MdSomOmZ9ry5GpGnP1lUHv48e3MMLsYbcZlbCEXyDOOk-G-qovzGnHirJkNM8LI2G9y-V8pRQ0osUJRPzIHjRkePup3/s1600-h/secondpressbackcover.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 320px; height: 310px;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEg7UKzelmVZDY578qd2cUwbKrn7R3KGsJzH5mFerLbAEckr5vvL8MdSomOmZ9ry5GpGnP1lUHv48e3MMLsYbcZlbCEXyDOOk-G-qovzGnHirJkNM8LI2G9y-V8pRQ0osUJRPzIHjRkePup3/s320/secondpressbackcover.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267644592243660850" /></a>Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6651274377550369742.post-66072161299727055142008-03-18T22:49:00.000-07:002008-03-22T16:28:54.669-07:00ASF interview from February 1987A month ago I was going through an old trunk of things I have collected for the past 25 years or so. The entire trunk was packed full of punk memorabilia that I have amassed since I was a teenager. Some of it good and most it bad. Anyway, I used to do various fanzines over the years, and in the 80s I did a lot of mail interviews. Since I lived in Oklahoma and not many bands came through, so I had no other real choice. <br /><br />One of the zines I worked on, which never came out, was called Trapped In Moore. The name referenced the town I was living in at the time. Moore is, or was (I hear it's changed quite a bit over the past 20 years) a bedroom community south of Oklahoma City. Your typical suburb of the 80s, where the jocks ruled the day and the rednecks kept the weirdos in check. Punk rock, or more aptly, hardcore, at the time was definitely not the cool music. You've heard the story a million times by now I'm sure. So anyway, Moore was a dull and boring place to live. So I did fanzines and wrote to bands to feel a little less trapped in that town. Four months after this interview was conducted I moved out of that town and never looked back. <br /><br />This interview was with ASF, an all female trio from Boulder, CO. Unclean put out their EPs and they had a LP on Flipside around the time this was done. One of the members, Leslie Mah, went on to be in Tribe 8. <br /><br />Who are the members of A.S.F., and if you want, give your ages.<br /><br />Leslie - bass, vocals.<br />Shannon - drums.<br />Tracie - Vocals, guitar. <br /><br />How did A.S.F. get together and how long have you been together? <br /><br />Tracie - Me and Leslie started playing about 3 years ago and eventually got other members. We've been together for about 3 years. <br /><br />Do you have any jobs other than the band? <br /><br />Shannon - Shannon and Leslie work in a groovy neck tie factory where we make the most expensive ties in the US. <br />Tracie - I work at a printing shop doing bindery work. Real exciting. <br /><br />What are some subjects you write songs about? <br /><br />Tracie - Just about how we feel, and things going on around us. Personal experiences. <br /><br />Are any of you straight-edge? Any opinion on straight-edge ideologies? <br /><br />Shannon - Pass me another beer. <br />Tracie - No. Straight-edge is fine and I think a lot of people need to be that way because they can't handle themselves. Whatever people want is fine as long they're happy. <br /><br />From the picture in Flipside #50, I noticed two of you have skateboards. Where are some good places to skate at in Boulder, and what is the skate scene like there? <br /><br />Tracie - There's not really much of anything in Boulder. Not even many punks, so of course nowhere to skate. No place to have shows anymore unless you have lots of money. <br /><br />What made you start A.S.F.? <br /><br />Tracie - Me and Leslie always wanted to be in a band so we did it together. <br /><br />Where did you find the word "scrunti"? <br /><br />Tracie - Some friends in Kenosha came up with it. It's a slutty girl. <br /><br />Who are some of your favorite bands? <br /><br />Tracie - Exploited, Ruebella Ballet, Gash, Frightwig, Super Heroines, and a lot of others. <br /><br />In what direction do you see hardcore heading? <br /><br />Tracie - Toward uncaring, toughness, fashion, and just really not having any sort of message any more besides, 'Let's get drunk and fuck'.Matt Averagehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03931511653516641419noreply@blogger.com0